Better to just let them kill each other and stay out of it.

The religion is hard wired to prevent any revision or reinterpretation to allow it to progress beyond a mentality that was primitive in the 12th century. Anyone who tries to moderate it or leave it will be killed.

. . to be expansionist - in fact I think they need to be restricted drastically, a lot more drastically than they are now. Wherever Islam is there is senseless and cowardly slaughter, particularly where they are a minority.

As for a bloody confrontation, I've been predicting that for some time. Given the current course I expect they will use Western technology primitively, but to do such dreadful damage the reaction will be severe. There will be a slaughter of Islam - millions will die and Mecca will be slagged.

Unfortunately, most who die, on both sides, will be innocents. That's the way it always is.

. . try to redirect their wrath against me. It won't work - they just take the target closest at hand.

I know exactly what you meant. If you check my post a little south of here you'll see we have plenty of newly rejected Muslim women in Los Angeles - and special women's help centers serving them.

They're culturally very conservative and have a real hard time giving up the tent and scarf. They've been kept in isolation as much as possible and lack education and any skills beyond Mideast household - so I'm not sure what happens to them. I guess that's what the women's help centers are for, but social services tend to be inadequate in this country.

Mideast men are mostly stinking shit, and they're getting rich running the porn industry out in the Valley (the U.S. center for porn) and various real estate scams. I have no sympathy for them here and I have none for them in the Mideast.

I seriously doubt Muslim women in the U.S. can have much effect on Islam outside this country. They're viewed as run-aways and cast-offs living in the bowels of the Great Satan - somewhat lower than camel dung in the eyes of right thinking Muslims elsewhere. As long as the men can just go home and get another one they have little standing with them either.

Not at all a good place to be - but better than where they came from.

No matter how hard the Muslim guys try to keep their wives isolated, every few years they have to go home and get a new one because the old one "went bad".

Unfortunately moderate Islam is pretty much confined to the U.S. because it's the only place moderates aren't promptly killed. I understand the enclaves in Europe are quite hard line.

Apologists are always pointing to the Hadiths saying "it isn't in the Koran", but that isn't stopping people from being killed. In a recent case that got worldwide publicity a convert from Islam still had to be transported to Italy to save his life while his death sentence was on appeal. It doesn't matter that the Hadiths are not absolute if they are treated as if they were.

Yes, Islam is decentralized, which seems to mean that any cleric who pleases can send his death squads anywhere he pleases and kill anyone he pleases to kill, with the full authority of Islam.

Yes, the Christians are plenty bad enough, thank you, but we've got them somewhat under control, at least for now, but some of them are drooling over what the Muslims are allowed to do so we have to keep an eye on them.

. . some progress might occurr - if it isn't just an exception. Nothing would please me more than to be proven completely wrong and see Islam grow up, but I'm not counting on it.

Here in the U.S. Muslim leaders are so concerned with the increasing disrespect their religion is held in they recently met with the Dali Lama to see if he could advise them how to build a peaceful image. They could try being peaceful, of course, but that might be too hard in a religion based on "conversion by the sword".

With every story of "Islamic justice" and Sharia law we read or see on TV, respect for Islam as a "major world religion" declines another notch on its way to being though of as just another violent street gang.