used to work for MS... I am under the impression he was the one that found that out.

Jeremy and the friend didn't know each other until a few years after the friend left MS.

I any case, the reason Samba's Code is so well Documented... and being bug for bug compliant, is that when you are doing packet captures of everything during a connection and communication test... you get to see everything.

Change one thing and watch the interaction, rinse - repeat.

It is a mighty fine way to get the info... except that it becomes "blacbox" connection technology, you have to guess very well as to see the proper results on both ends.