Post #260,243
6/28/06 7:40:16 AM
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Perhaps he's just trying to be "balanced".
He did, after all, do a [link|http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&articleId=9000829|Visual Tour: 20 Things You Won't Like About Windows Vista] story.
I can't get worked up over it either way. Vista doesn't interest me much at all.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #260,257
6/28/06 9:50:46 AM
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My own list
1) looks nice
2) Sidebar is cute but I don't really see what good it is unless third parties add new gadgets
3) despite passing all tests for Vista readiness, the advanced graphics aren't working on my beta 2 install
4) seems slow for a box w/ 2 GB RAM
5) new search either sucks or takes a lot of getting used to
6) search is also run but I only found that out by typing in winword and having Word 2007 beta open
7) didn't try Firefox on it as the mozilla site does not list Vista as an OS
8) wanted to put the CA anti-virus for Vista on, but they never sent me the email w/ the download link after I registered, so installed Trend Micro, which is a suite with a firewall that turns off Windows firewall and runs its own instead
9) like the InkBall game (won't play on XP)
10) new version of Hearts looks nice
11) starting to get into MahJong
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Post #260,263
6/28/06 12:22:23 PM
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Re: My own list
1) looks nice Subjective. 2) Sidebar is cute but I don't really see what good it is unless third parties add new gadgets It's a gimmick until it grows dashboard/Y! gadgets functionality. 3) despite passing all tests for Vista readiness, the advanced graphics aren't working on my beta 2 install Working here, but you're not alone. 4) seems slow for a box w/ 2 GB RAM Doesn't it just? 5) new search either sucks or takes a lot of getting used to Werd. 6) search is also run but I only found that out by typing in winword and having Word 2007 beta open Ar. But the run entry can be added to your start menu. 7) didn't try Firefox on it as the mozilla site does not list Vista as an OS Works fine. 8) wanted to put the CA anti-virus for Vista on, but they never sent me the email w/ the download link after I registered, so installed Trend Micro, which is a suite with a firewall that turns off Windows firewall and runs its own instead The CA stuff is poo. Every time you login you get a UAP prompt to load the system tray things, and you can't turn them off. 9) like the InkBall game (won't play on XP) Ar. 10) new version of Hearts looks nice Ar. 11) starting to get into MahJong Ar.
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Post #260,273
6/28/06 1:26:54 PM
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Hot Damn, I've been waiting for the release of Vista.
1) looks nice Subjective.
Fugly, IMNSHO. 2) Sidebar is cute but I don't really see what good it is unless third parties add new gadgets It's a gimmick until it grows dashboard/Y! gadgets functionality.
Sort of like Desklets in GNOME 3) despite passing all tests for Vista readiness, the advanced graphics aren't working on my beta 2 install Working here, but you're not alone.
So, I am guess another bump in the DirectX/DirectHA$$le 4) seems slow for a box w/ 2 GB RAM Doesn't it just?
Wow, 2GB. I am guessing the Memory companies are salivating, waiting like the rest of us. 5) new search either sucks or takes a lot of getting used to Werd.
Hmmm, maybe they should not have flipped the Kill-Switch on WinFS 6) search is also run but I only found that out by typing in winword and having Word 2007 beta open Ar. But the run entry can be added to your start menu.
Cool, but why can't we do it easily... or have it by default? 7) didn't try Firefox on it as the mozilla site does not list Vista as an OS Works fine.
Probably the best piece of software currently running on Vista. 8) wanted to put the CA anti-virus for Vista on, but they never sent me the email w/ the download link after I registered, so installed Trend Micro, which is a suite with a firewall that turns off Windows firewall and runs its own instead The CA stuff is poo. Every time you login you get a UAP prompt to load the system tray things, and you can't turn them off.
CA is poo. Not just the AV stuff. As the saying goes... If CA buys a company or product line, it is the kiss of death for usability formerly available 9) like the InkBall game (won't play on XP) Ar.
Awesome, more games to remove from the corporate Desktop. Or the old commercial Commentator says: "Hey you just bought your new computer, what are you doing with it now?" Reply from Consumer in a "Ben Stein" like voice: "Playing cards." Commentator: "Really?" Consumer: "Yep, playing cards." But then I get to have a new game! 10) new version of Hearts looks nice Ar.
Really, I was really getting sick and tired of the old look, myself. Justifies the Whole Vista thing, period 11) starting to get into MahJong Ar.
All hail Microsoft for innovating entertainment, bringing MahJong to the PC. It was getting sickening playing it on a table. Having to set it up the builds, stack and other stuff. -- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
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Post #260,420
6/29/06 12:54:54 PM
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MS innovating Mahjong? Nope,
it was in OS/2 Warp! I spent too many hours playing it.
Mahjong is still THE GAME for most Chinese, kinda like poker is for Americans.
--Tony
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Post #260,451
6/29/06 5:31:20 PM
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NO.... NO, NO.
You consider that thing called OS/2 Warp a OS?
And wasn't it just a copy of Microsoft's improved stuff.
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Post #260,455
6/29/06 5:50:04 PM
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YES, NO.
OS/2 Warp ran rings around anything else.
It had more advanced features than any other PC OS when it came out.
It had a consistent, beautiful and useful interface.
It actually WORKED, and didn't crash. (In fact, when I took visitors on tours of our datacenter, I used to point to the Warp server and the NT server, and ask them if they could tell the difference from the outside - the difference was that the OS/2 server had the yellowed tape over the power switch).
The fact that MS had a hand in OS/2 1.x does not make later versions warmed over Windows, as you imply...
*chuckle*
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Post #260,456
6/29/06 5:51:32 PM
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Americans REALLY don't get sarcasm, huh?
That one was so thick that even I got it.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #260,457
6/29/06 5:54:44 PM
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There are some stimuli I cannot resist...
Have you not noticed?
*chuckle*
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #260,459
6/29/06 6:06:01 PM
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Note to self: make OS 2 = NT jokes this weekend. :-P
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Post #260,460
6/29/06 6:14:07 PM
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Ah. De-sensitivity training!
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #260,461
6/29/06 7:07:32 PM
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And I'll try not to laugh my head off. ;-)
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Post #260,473
6/29/06 11:10:51 PM
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Windows hasn't been crashy since 2000.
Peter
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Post #260,474
6/29/06 11:40:16 PM
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Define "crashy".
You have requested installation of 12 Windows updates from Microsoft Windows Update. 3 updates must be installed separately. Please stand by while your system is rebooted 27 times and the update installations complete.
Please do not be surprised if some updates hang during installation. This is normal. Microsoft cannot guarantee the quality of any free updates provided by the Microsoft Windows Update service. Only Critical Updates will be addressed in the next Patch Tuesday.
Please be sure to enable Automatic Updates to keep your PC running as Microsoft intended. If the updates hang, see Paragraph 2 above. A colleague at work lost a couple of days this week trying to get Office and his e-mail working again after installing the latest "Patch Tuesday" updates. I'm sure Vista and Windows Live! will fix all that though. [link|http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/06/locked-doors-martin-taylor-markz-and.html|"Hey Windows Live! Come Pimp My Office!"] :-/ Yeah, 2000 doesn't crash as much as Win95. Neither did OS/2 3.0 circa 12 years ago. :-) Cheers, Scott. (Who just ordered a copy of [link|http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/|Parallels Workstation] to get ready to start his migration off of Win2k.)
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Post #260,481
6/30/06 7:37:20 AM
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Peter's right
I've been supporting Windows since before 3.1 and crashes due strictly to OS bugs are simply not the issue they once were. Note I did not say nonexistent. But, they aren't a big enough concern for me to worry over. I have all my field staff set to use automatic updates and just about the only calls I get related to updates are from users worried about installing *anything* in response to a "popup".
Almost the entirety of "my system crashed" calls are hardware related.
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Post #260,482
6/30/06 8:58:35 AM
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In fact, I think that X is now less stable than Windows.
While the underlying OS might be more robust (and I don't seriously think there's much in it between Windows, Linux, the *BSDs and OS X these days), if your display driver crashes, the operating system might as well have crashed. Xorg is teething at the moment.
A shit ATI driver (supplied by ATI) was the cause of some serious instability in my Vista installation. The kernel never blinked, but as far as I was concerned, it was titsup.com.
Of course, none of the aforementioned "operating systems" hold a candle to Proper Software like OS/400 and OpenVMS when it comes to "not falling apart at critical moments".
Peter
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Post #260,527
7/1/06 12:35:25 AM
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Avidly seeking AS400
A good deal on an old small one + OS, of the silent type -
A useable browser - modest video card support; sound nice but optional.
A simple POP mail client; requisite comm.
Will trade copies of 1900s cornet solos for once=final installation labor -
(Modern copies of Nakariakov solos - for maintenance recipes in English, too.)
I won't need to know about booting options - it can sit in closet for years w/UPS.
Yes, I know it can run n-instances of *nix and others. Begs the issue.
What ... it can't do the above, native? Yet??
Ashton
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Post #260,492
6/30/06 11:46:00 AM
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I created a custom tile set
I found out you could replace the images in the resource file with your own images and made a tile set using photos of friends and family. Here's the [link|http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.os2.games/browse_frm/thread/9cd154a5bbd0e114/36c589654f65225e?lnk=st&q=os%2F2+mahjong+spice&rnum=1#36c589654f65225e|instructions] I posted for it, though I don't know if I have the tileset anymore.
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Post #260,937
7/6/06 5:45:48 PM
7/6/06 5:46:26 PM
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Fscking Mahjongg is addictive!
Discovered it on our Linux servers' Gnome desktop. Damn, that thing can suck up after-hours time!
Still looking for a decent, free Windows version. Found one that is basically a Flash player, but I hate Flash, so I'm still looking.
jb4
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July 6, 2006, 05:46:26 PM EDT
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Post #260,941
7/6/06 5:55:46 PM
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And illegal in 34 states!
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #260,953
7/6/06 6:48:24 PM
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It's hard to beat Kyodai.
It's shareware. [link|http://www.kyodai.com/kyodown.html|http://www.kyodai.com/kyodown.html] $22.95.
I have v10.21 which is the last OpenGL version - it doesn't require MS's latest and greatest Direct X. There are some artifacts at times, but it's very nice. Older and newer version are available.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #260,962
7/6/06 10:33:55 PM
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Real mahjong, with actual tiles . . .
. . is a great game. There's just enough luck that a newbie will win a hand now and then and stay interested - but the guy with experience and expertise will alway win in the long run.
The Chinese apparently developed the game from rummy card games they had learned from the hated barbarians.
In the 20s, before the Depression killed off all things exotic, the game was forced on La Vegas and they hated it. The problem was, played at a penny a point most hands would pay a few dollars, but there is a hand called "Catching the Moon from the Bottom of the Sea" which would pay something like $5 million (I don't remember exactly) at a penny a point. This made them veeeeery nervous even though they could find no proof of anyone ever having that hand.
I have a couple of sets of tiles and sticks - not real bone faces but at least real bamboo backs, but I haven't played for many years.
Reject "Catskill Rules" and sets with extra tiles designed to increase the influence of chance and reduce the effect of expertise. Japanese rules are good, and the old American Association rules (similar to the Japanese but with a touch more given to chance).
Mahjong Solitaire is an abomination not to be tolerated - Onan's sin was far less dispicable - it is a social game.
Besides, what could be more delicious, once you realize you cannot win a hand, than to play to make sure nobody else wins either. Savor the dirty looks.
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