Lords and Ladies

Post #257,568 by imqwerky 6/2/06 1:40:10 PM Reply	Lords and Ladies Thank you, Ben, for introducing me to Terry Pratchett. I did not know what I was missing! Small Gods was my first step into Discworld. I just finished Lords and Ladies and want to go back and reread it. Kind of like when you see a movie and want to go back and see it 5 times. The characters are so rich and funny! I could just imagine the Stick and Bucket Dance as done by the IWE Morris Dancers <snort!> Off to the bookstore for more! Ooook!
Post #257,614 by tjsinclair 6/3/06 1:36:04 AM Reply	In a way I envy you I'd love to be able to experience the books again for the first time myself. The good news is that they hold up well with re-readings. Tom Sinclair "This is a lovely party," said the Bursar to a chair, "I wish I was here." -- The Bursar is a man under a lot of stress (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies)
Post #257,846 by bionerd 6/6/06 1:35:24 PM Reply	Still havent read any of those books. I picked one up at the library, thumbed through it, and put it back on the shelf. Doesnt seem like something I could get into. I am prepared for your retorts, so fire away. Follow your MOUSE
Post #257,867 by imqwerky 6/6/06 2:18:22 PM Reply	You would enjoy them They are written with a great sense of humor. Reading Lords and Ladies was a nice place to escape to for awhile. Now I need to decide on which book to read next :)
Post #257,869 by inthane-chan 6/6/06 2:22:17 PM Reply	"Small Gods" is one of my favorites. So are most of the "Guards" cycle - I've read the following: Guards! Guards! Men At Arms Feet of Clay Jingo Night Watch They were rather good. When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your* security they're talking about.*
Post #257,872 by imqwerky 6/6/06 2:28:59 PM Reply	That was the first one I read I loved it. I wish someone would make a movie of it instead of making all this trash lately. It would be a fresh change of pace.
Post #257,880 by Silverlock 6/6/06 3:04:54 PM Reply	If you like those ... Try Good Omens. Collaboration between Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. Kevin Smith obviously liked it enough to steal bits of it. See Dogma. The word is that Terry Gilliam had been tapped to do the movie version of Good Omens and then the deal fell through after Dogma was released. ----------------------------------------- Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
Post #257,889 by imqwerky 6/6/06 4:12:04 PM Reply	I loved Dogma too Kevin Smith is a riot. I heard he wasn't going to do anymore "Jay and Silent Bob" movies, but he is doing a "Clerks II" Thanks for the suggestions. Off to the B&N website :)
Post #257,896 by admin 6/6/06 5:04:09 PM Reply	There are two movies: Wyrd Sisters and Soul Music were made into animated films. Worth watching if you've read the books and/or are British, since the accents in the films are pretty thick. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #257,898 by imqwerky 6/6/06 5:08:04 PM 6/6/06 5:09:05 PM Reply	Bollocks! I love Limey flicks :) That's what subtitles are for until you learn the lingo. Edited by imqwerky June 6, 2006, 05:09:05 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #257,899 by inthane-chan 6/6/06 5:20:50 PM Reply	I am reminded of "The Limey". [link\|http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0165854/\|This film 'ere.] "There's one thing I don't understand. The thing I don't understand is every motherfuckin' word you're saying." When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your* security they're talking about.*
Post #257,901 by imqwerky 6/6/06 5:28:45 PM Reply	I've seen that one too. Bloody good one, that one is.
Post #257,911 by broomberg 6/6/06 7:34:02 PM Reply	I'm in the midst of Guards! Guards! book on tape. MP3 actually. Very nicely read.
Post #257,870 by Another Scott 6/6/06 2:22:45 PM Reply	Similar here. I thumbed through a few at a bookstore, planning on picking up one. But nothing clicked with me. Part of my problem was knowing where to start. It sounds like I should try again though, based on this review of [link\|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0061020710/102-4335371-6162516\|The Color of Magic]: Fantasy has never been one of my favorite genres, but I decided to give the magical world of Discworld a try at the suggestion of several friends. I am very glad I did. This turned out to be a very different kind of fantasy, in spite of its wizards, trolls, and dragons. Discworld is a flat planet resting on the backs of four elephants riding on the back of a turtle that slowly makes its way across the universe. As strange and steeped in magic as Discworld is, it seems suspiciously like our own world. Its inhabitants have some very familiar vices and pastimes. Author Terry Pratchett is a wonderful cross between Douglas Adams, Piers Anthony, and Mark Twain, and his Discworld novels are full of great fun, inventiveness, and wicked satire. "The Color of Magic" is the first story in the series. This paperback edition comes with an appendix that makes a handy travel guide for first-time tourists of Terry Pratchett's amazing fantasy land. It includes a brief musing on Discworld, a synopsis of the main cast of characters in the series, a nonmap (after all, how can a sense of humor be mapped?), a guide to Discworld on thirty dollars a day, and even a crossword puzzle to quiz you on what you have learned on your maiden voyage. I enjoy Twain and Adams very much (especially Twain's letters and commentary), so it sounds like it's worthwhile to try a book or two. Cheers, Scott.
Post #257,921 by tuberculosis 6/6/06 7:56:36 PM Reply	The Color of Magic is the first of the discworld books and I think one of his weakest as he hasn't quite hit his groove. It establishes things, but lacks an overall "message" like most of the later ones. Later books address modern social issues through fantastic storytelling. For instance, Equal Rites involves a girl trying to gain entrance to a male only wizards university. Great stuff. The Truth is a wacky take on the power of the press. Moving pictures spoofs the rise of Hollywood. Small Gods (the best of the lot IMO) is a wicked dissection of religion. Pick one at random - there's no order to speak of. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #257,936 by Meerkat 6/6/06 9:34:09 PM Reply	I wouldn't start with The Colour of Magic It's the first one I read, and it quite put me off picking up any of the others in teh series. I really didn't enjoy it at all. For me, the humour just ... wasn't. Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
Post #257,940 by tuberculosis 6/6/06 11:06:03 PM Reply	That's what I said or tried to. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #257,944 by admin 6/6/06 11:52:11 PM Reply	Actually, there is an order. Characters are introduced, things happen. Rincewind just showing up out of thin air with no intro in "Eric" would be a bit off-putting if you hadn't read the first few books. My advice: read them in order. While "The Colour Of Magic" and "The Light Fantastic" may not be his strongest, they are definitely funny and well worth the read, and they introduce Rincewind and the Luggage. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #257,945 by ben_tilly 6/7/06 12:09:30 AM Reply	That advice is only good if... you're dealing with someone who knows that they want to read the series. But Laura doubts that she wants to read the series at all. Therefore it makes sense to start with a relatively independent book like Small Gods or Pyramids so she can find out that she does want to read the rest of them. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #257,946 by admin 6/7/06 12:23:20 AM 6/7/06 12:23:45 AM Reply	Depends. You're assuming that one, "The Colour Of Magic" isn't good enough to keep her attention in the first place (personally, I think it's a great book), and two, that she's not the sort of person who really likes to read things in the order they were written (like me). You gave me the same advice and I blithely ignored you, and I'm glad I did. ;-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..." Edited by admin June 7, 2006, 12:23:45 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #257,947 by ben_tilly 6/7/06 12:48:02 AM Reply	Fewer assumptions than you think I'm not assuming that the first book will not be able to keep her attention, I'm expressing fear that it might not. While I liked it, I agree with Todd that it is a weaker book than the rest, and Meerkat stands as an example showing that this fear is valid. I'm also not assuming anything about how much she wants to read things in the order that they were written. I'm making it perfectly clear what order they were written in, and saying where I would suggest starting. Laura's a big girl, I assume that if she's anal-retentive about doing things in the "right" order, then she'll know that about herself and know to disregard advice that won't work for her - like you did. The fact that I offer advice doesn't mean that I expect that advice to be blindly accepted. If I did have that expectation then I'd just say, "Here's what I recommend." But I don't, so instead I say, "Here's what I recommend and why I recommend it." What to do with that advice is then entirely up to her. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #257,984 by bionerd 6/7/06 1:25:50 PM Reply	You guys are bickering like a couple of little old ladies Nit nit nit Pick pick pick You remind me of my grandma and her sister. When they were alive they carried on like you two. Now you've gone and made me miss my Grammy and Nana. :-( See where all this bickering gets you? Follow your MOUSE
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Post #257,992 by imqwerky 6/7/06 2:21:46 PM Reply	Aren't they cute? Wait till you see them drunk as hell. Bring a couple of dresses and they just might end up wearing them by the end of the evening :-)
Post #258,006 by admin 6/7/06 3:20:52 PM Reply	You've never seen me drunk as hell... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,023 by imqwerky 6/7/06 4:01:19 PM Reply	Oh, that's right....you're a candyass. I forgot.
Post #258,052 by admin 6/7/06 6:44:42 PM Reply	Actually, I just wasn't drinking that much that night. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,057 by bionerd 6/7/06 7:42:08 PM Reply	Candyass. That's funny. Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,375 by bionerd 6/9/06 11:51:38 PM Reply	Hey Amy- I've called my boss a candyass for 2 straight days. Today he finally said 'ENOUGH'. And do you know why? Because he's a big CANDYASS! Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,381 by imqwerky 6/10/06 12:42:56 AM Reply	LMAO I've got more good names to share. As soon as I can remember 'em :-)
Post #258,076 by ben_tilly 6/7/06 11:34:58 PM Reply	Forewarned is forearmed. Your chances of successfully getting me into a dress just dropped precipitously. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,146 by imqwerky 6/8/06 11:39:37 AM Reply	You're right. Bad idea. Nevermind.
Post #258,075 by ben_tilly 6/7/06 11:32:05 PM Reply	Not exactly the outcome I was hoping for I'd hope to make you curious enough that you'd read one of the books and get hooked. ;-) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,119 by bionerd 6/8/06 9:39:03 AM Reply	No, you got the desired outcome. I'll give Terry Pratchett another shot. There most be something to these books if they evoke such passionate debate. But you still remind me of grammy and I bet you'll look awful pretty in that dress. Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,169 by ben_tilly 6/8/06 1:56:32 PM Reply	:-) And you'll never find out. :-P Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,185 by imqwerky 6/8/06 2:28:00 PM Reply	They did a good job impersonating Nanny Ogg and Granny Weatherwax, two characters in Lords and Ladies Based on that, I know you will enjoy it :) I ATENT DEAD
Post #258,186 by ben_tilly 6/8/06 2:36:31 PM Reply	If we're impersonating them then... Which of us is the lech? Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,193 by imqwerky 6/8/06 2:58:06 PM Reply	I shall save that proclamation for the BeePBash :-)
Post #258,215 by admin 6/8/06 5:29:03 PM Reply	Anyone who knows me... ... also knows that there is no contest. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,246 by broomberg 6/8/06 6:30:07 PM Reply	Amateur
Post #258,258 by admin 6/8/06 8:51:24 PM Reply	You don't know me that well. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,264 by ben_tilly 6/8/06 9:33:42 PM Reply	Oooh, this is an argument I want to see at Beeps! Of course what we won't see is all of the stuff that neither of you will admit to. I'm not sure which of you that favours. I note that at [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=128365\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=128365] you declined to take the test and report a score. [link\|http://www.hotlanta.com/helltest.htm\|http://www.hotlanta.com/helltest.htm] may be the same as that one, in which case we can get a point of comparison between the two of you. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,270 by admin 6/8/06 10:28:16 PM Reply	That test covers signicantly more than lechery. And I suspect the Barry scored quite a bit higher on some portions of that test for obvious reasons. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,284 by broomberg 6/9/06 7:27:49 AM Reply	And is is also light on lechery I can think of a bunch of things that should rate their own questions yet don't show up.
Post #258,306 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 2:10:09 PM Reply	Suggested resolution... Both you and Scott prepare a lechery test for the other to take. Both of you include your own scores on your own test. That test can have lots of things that you've done and won't admit to because it will also have lots of things that you haven't done. Nobody will know which things you have and haven't done. The name of the game is plausible deniability. The showdown can be at the Beep bash. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,317 by admin 6/9/06 4:14:43 PM Reply	Lechery isn't just what you've done, anyway Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,331 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 5:20:46 PM Reply	Ah yes. You're a man of much thought and little action. I thought about the idea of a "lechery test" at beepbash. I figured that we'd probably get Dave, boxley, broomberg and then you. :-P Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,332 by admin 6/9/06 5:29:16 PM Reply	Like I said, you don't know me very well. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,335 by imqwerky 6/9/06 5:34:59 PM Reply	And to think this all started because... I said you were impersonating two characters in a book. Two Female characters. Well, we shall have to have a read-off as well, don't ya think? Maybe even put on a short skit or one act play. Barry can be Casanunda :-) Now, there is a lecher!
Post #258,343 by broomberg 6/9/06 6:49:28 PM Reply	Needs a review panel for weighting #1 - Action speak louder than thoughts. If you really think you should get points for thoughts, fine, but actions should be weighted with a multiplier. #2 - Individual Yes No scores should not have the same value for wildly varying activities. Some things are much more "valuable" from a points perspective. So, we need a range of possible weighting factors, let's say 1-5. And it only applies to actions, not thoughts.
Post #258,346 by drewk 6/9/06 7:27:42 PM Reply	WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY too much work And you're going to ask someone to do math late in a BeepBash? Chyeah. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #258,348 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 8:33:18 PM Reply	Remind me to do that. Flummoxing someone like that sounds fun. That also reminds me that I want a chessboard. So I can try playing Skip blindfold. :-) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,354 by broomberg 6/9/06 9:48:02 PM Reply	Simple spreadsheet Prebeep we gather the list of offences. At Beep, we call out the offence, and let people shout a number from 1-5. You've got to think that the calling out of the offense will be entertaining enough to keep people's attention. If not, then it is not good enough to be included anyway. No agreement? Screw it, who ever is typing chooses the answer.
Post #258,357 by imqwerky 6/9/06 10:19:37 PM Reply	Ok, this is starting to get GOOD! should we all submit offenses until we have, oh, 50 of them?
Post #258,361 by broomberg 6/9/06 10:35:16 PM Reply	Numbers shouldn't matter How warped is your imagination? Start submitting, I'll throw them into a spreadsheet.
Post #258,378 by tuberculosis 6/10/06 12:29:59 AM 8/21/07 5:46:35 AM Reply	Geeze - its like the Aristocrats Which, when I think of it, perhaps ought to be the test. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer] Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:46:35 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #258,443 by imqwerky 6/10/06 10:19:37 PM Reply	My 19 yr old said the same thing! I about crapped my pants :)
Post #258,365 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 10:53:36 PM 6/10/06 10:16:21 PM Reply	No time like the present to get going... Lemme get this on the road. I'm trying to keep this one gender-neutral. BTW Had sex Had sex with an age gap of > 5 years Had sex with an age gap of > 10 years Had sex with an age gap of > 20 years Had sex with an age gap of > 30 years Had sex with an age gap of > 40 years Hit on friend's SO At friend's suggestion Had sex with friend's SO At friend's suggestion Hit on relative's SO At relative's suggestion Had sex with relative's SO At relative's suggestion Hit on SO's friend Hit on multiple friends of SO? Hit on SO's friend while SO was present Had sex with SO's friend Had sex with multiple friends of SO At the same time Had sex with SO's friend while SO was present (accidental discovery OK) SO was involved in sex with friend Asked friend to hit on SO Friend had sex with SO Friend had sex with SO while you were present You and friend had sex with SO You and SO tried wife swapping You and SO are swingers Hit on inlaws (long-term committed relationship counts as marriage for this) Hit on multiple inlaws Hit on inlaws while SO was present Had sex with inlaws Had sex with multiple inlaws At the same time Had sex with inlaw while SO was present Had sex with inlaw and SO together Had an affair (must be relationship SO would not approve of) Had an affair that SO knows about Had an affair while SO was present (accidental discovery OK) Have a pregnancy to your credit Have a pregnancy to your credit from an affair Your SO doesn't know about said pregnancy Your SO knows about said pregnancy Are involved in pregnancy where parentage was uncertain Are involved in pregnancy where parentage was uncertain and one of the potential dads wasn't informed of the uncertainty I could easily continue the list. But I think that does for a start. Someone else's turn. Cheers, Ben PS Updated to add some obvious ones that I was missing. Sorry Amy, no animals or sex with your own relatives yet. Why don't you ask those questions? I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother) Edited by ben_tilly June 10, 2006, 10:16:21 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #258,382 by imqwerky 6/10/06 12:46:59 AM Reply	What? No animals or relatives?
Post #258,386 by ben_tilly 6/10/06 3:04:46 AM Reply	Hey, I was just starting the list I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,401 by imqwerky 6/10/06 10:46:45 AM Reply	:-D
Post #258,403 by inthane-chan 6/10/06 10:50:18 AM Reply	That's either sad or good. I can only answer yes to one of those questions. When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your* security they're talking about.*
Post #258,405 by imqwerky 6/10/06 10:55:29 AM Reply	<Halo>Thane</Halo>
Post #258,407 by inthane-chan 6/10/06 11:48:07 AM Reply	I scored more pure than Jesus once on a purity test. Now, I don't. When somebody asks you to trade your freedoms for security, it isn't your* security they're talking about.*
Post #258,442 by ben_tilly 6/10/06 10:09:17 PM Reply	What? Nobody else wants to contribute? Come on, am I the only person who will share the kinds of things that I can think of that happen with sex? So far I've just had questions about who you have had sex with. I haven't even covered that ground very well. For instance a few more: Had sex with strangers you just met? Frequently? Multiple times in a night? Multiple strangers at once? Later accidentally encountered one in a very different social setting? There are no questions about the act yet. I really don't feel qualified to fill this in, but I've known people who've most of the following: French-kissed? (Here Thane! A freebie!) Had a 3-way French kiss? Masturbated? (Special for Thane! You can count yourself as corrupted now!) Where you could be caught? In a public place? Masturbated someone else? Where you could be caught? In a public place? Had sex where you could be caught? In a public place? Seen pornography? Seen pornography in a theater? Filmed yourself having sex? Shown the video to others? Been to a strip club? As a performer? Had vaginal intercourse? Oral intercourse? Anal intercourse? Participated in 2 of these at once? (You might not have been the person to whom both were happening.) Participated in all 3 at once? (Ditto.) Had 69? Had > 1 orgasm in 24 hours? > 2? > 3? > 5? Caused > 1 orgasm in 24 hours? (Your own don't count.) > 2? > 3? > 5? > 10? Caused > 1 person to orgasm in 24 hours? (You don't count.) > 2? > 3? > 5? > 10? Had sex continuously for >15 minutes? > 30 minutes? > 1 hour? To the point of physical pain? Had oral intercourse with a gag reflex involved? Was there vomit? Kept eyes open while orgasming during sex? Were you looking in your partner's eyes? Used lingerie during sex? Used toys during sex? Used roleplay during sex? Had partner pretend to be person you'd rather be fucking? Was it someone you both knew? Pretended to be person your partner would rather fuck? Was it someone you both knew? Tried water sports? (If you have to ask what that is, you haven't.) Tried strangulation? Tried S&M? As top? As bottom? Suffered/inflicted injury during sex? (Accident OK.) Continued anyways? Intentionally did it again? Suffered/inflicted serious injury during sex? (Accident OK.) Continued anyways? Intentionally did it again? () Now come on, there must be someone who is willing to add to this list some things they have ~~done~~heard of... Cheers, Ben ) Note, this is the only item that I don't personally know someone who I think has done. I've done very little, but I know people... I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,445 by imqwerky 6/10/06 10:59:04 PM 6/11/06 11:57:29 AM Reply	You want more, you got more! Have you had phone sex(with someone you know)? Have you called a 900 number (phone sex with someone you don't know)? Have you had IM sex? Have you ever had sex that involved flavored lubricants? Have you ever used water in oral sex? Did you ever look at an animal and think "If Only!"? Do you have to take showers to hide your masturbating? Do you take your laptop into the bathroom to look at porn? Did you ever get anybody drunk just to shag their brains out? Shortest time between meeting and humping(without money being exchanged) <1 week, < 1day, < 1 hour, < 15 mins. Have you ever been to a Rainbow Party? Have you ever participated in an orgy? Do you think about sex 24/7? Is the song "Aqualung" a mild representation of your personality? Do you look at every person you meet as a potential lay? If you answer yes to the last five questions, you win the contest! And, uh, stand over there...yeah, waaaay over there, ok? Thanks. LOL Edited by imqwerky June 10, 2006, 11:12:35 PM EDT Edited by imqwerky June 10, 2006, 11:13:46 PM EDT Edited by imqwerky June 10, 2006, 11:29:22 PM EDT Edited by imqwerky June 11, 2006, 11:57:29 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #258,447 by ben_tilly 6/10/06 11:53:59 PM Reply	:-) Anyone else? I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,480 by bionerd 6/11/06 11:32:22 AM Reply	Dont rush me. I'm thinking. Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,581 by bionerd 6/12/06 11:14:49 AM Reply	Here you go- Have you ever watched sex in a movie? Have you tried to copy what they do? Was it groovy? In a car while driving fast? With other drivers whizzing past? I wonder how long that would last. (Before someone ends up in a cast) In the back seat in a cab? Driving the taxi driver mad? On an airplane? In a train? On the hood of a car? Maybe outside in the rain? In a restroom? Please be quiet. The person in the next stall Might want to try it. Have you had sex on a beach? With other couples within arms reach? On a Harley? In a truck? In the neighbor\ufffds pool? Now there\ufffds a good _______. (Sorry. It rhymed.) Have you had sex that made you cry? So good that you want to die? Where time stands still and hearts beat fast The kind you want to last and last? Have you faked it? Or has she? You probably wouldn\ufffdt know, you see. Especially if it was me. With how many people have been? 50? 25? Maybe 10? Any tattoos or piercings to titillate? What about shaving to excite your mate? Wearing a mask? Using a feather? Oh what fun can be had together! Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,582 by drewk 6/12/06 11:17:25 AM Reply	I do! I like them, Sam I Am! === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #258,592 by boxley 6/12/06 12:35:07 PM Reply	in a train on a train Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #258,595 by bionerd 6/12/06 12:58:53 PM Reply	With a fox, with a Box.... Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,603 by drewk 6/12/06 2:07:54 PM Reply	Wait wait wait From now on whenever I hear "Fox in socks" all I'll think is "... and a smile". And ... Is that "in a box" or "in the box" or "with a Box"? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #258,596 by imqwerky 6/12/06 1:32:12 PM Reply	Brilliant! I don't think I have ever heard A chick as cool as Bionerd Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #258,648 by ben_tilly 6/12/06 5:27:01 PM Reply	Wow. Just wow. Give it a title and repost it elsewhere. That's good enough to go around the net a few times. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,726 by cforde 6/13/06 12:40:30 AM Reply	not so fast, take it slow... Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #258,483 by imqwerky 6/11/06 11:49:57 AM Reply	If this helps at all, the definition of lecher... Looks like I will be editing my test questions :-/ lech\ufffder n. A man with strong sexual desires. [Middle English, from Old French lecheor, from lechier, to lick, to live in debauchery, of Germanic origin; ] Synonyms: degenerate, deviant, pervert - a person whose behavior deviates from what is acceptable especially in sexual behavior Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #258,485 by pwhysall 6/11/06 11:56:15 AM Reply	Re: If this helps at all, the definition of lecher... Big list of perversions [link\|http://tinyurl.com/fv6cu\|here], if that helps. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator]
Post #258,486 by imqwerky 6/11/06 12:00:34 PM Reply	Actually, there's a better list [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Here] Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #258,491 by admin 6/11/06 12:45:31 PM Reply	Which is why insistence on acts performed is wrong... Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,493 by ben_tilly 6/11/06 12:59:54 PM 6/11/06 1:17:55 PM Reply	If the desire is strong enough, it will turn into action :-P But if it makes it easier, we could alter the test from, "Which of these have you done?" to "Which of these have you masturbated to thoughts of doing?" That massively lowers the bar. And makes it just thoughts. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother) Edited by ben_tilly June 11, 2006, 01:17:55 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #258,502 by imqwerky 6/11/06 1:20:01 PM Reply	OMFGROFLMAO! Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #258,496 by imqwerky 6/11/06 1:08:12 PM Reply	So, what have you thought about doing? Hmmmmm? Smile, Amy [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?Amy%20Rathman\|Pics of the Family]
Post #258,498 by broomberg 6/11/06 1:11:03 PM Reply	Ya wanna just give up now? You are arguing to be a scumbag. And you are trying to do it based on thoughts. If it was thoughts alone, with the exception of a few items (very few), I'd say yup, check it off, move on. Most of us with a bit of testosterone and mildly attractive aquaintences would do the same. Or so I believe. The real test is given a chance, do you act upon it. And not given a chance, do you make a chance.
Post #258,501 by ben_tilly 6/11/06 1:13:57 PM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #258500 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=258500\|ICLRPD] I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,593 by boxley 6/12/06 12:38:26 PM Reply	as told to true story house with about 8 guys one gal, lots of snort around the girl has to sit down to take care of a rumble in the gut so to speak. One of the players walks in and goes while you are sitting there anyway take care of this, she does thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #258,369 by boxley 6/9/06 11:21:02 PM Reply	Ahem, Laura, you know me better than most here, who wins the sheer lechery contest? (barry is a close second) thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #258,372 by bionerd 6/9/06 11:47:50 PM Reply	Hard to say. I dont know Barry like I know you, but it's safe to assume I'd be hard pressed to find anyone more lecherous than Mr. Bill. Follow your MOUSE
Post #258,374 by boxley 6/9/06 11:50:51 PM Reply	we've compared notes close second but he got married early so didnt have as many years in the wild. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #258,394 by broomberg 6/10/06 9:22:46 AM Reply	Ahem Semi domesticated includes MANY more years.
Post #258,296 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 10:34:21 AM Reply	Um you don't get a score like Barry's by... scoring highly on some portions of the test. You get it by scoring highly on all portions of the test! (Lechery included.) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,298 by admin 6/9/06 10:37:06 AM Reply	You misread what I wrote. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,307 by ben_tilly 6/9/06 2:13:01 PM Reply	Reading it more carefully... You're right that Barry's overall score is likely to be higher than yours. But my point was that he can't be missing much on any section, lechery included, if he got the score he did. So if unless you have close to a perfect score on that, Barry beat you on that section too. Anyways this is not a good way to resolve this question. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #261,711 by Arkadiy 7/14/06 1:02:09 PM 7/14/06 1:47:29 PM Reply	Hey, it takes three! "The maiden, the mother and... the other one" Edit: or, alternatively, "The crone, the maiden and... the other one" ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.] Edited by Arkadiy July 14, 2006, 01:47:29 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #258,203 by bionerd 6/8/06 3:29:58 PM Reply	Nanny and granny? You're bringing a tear to my eye. Okay, I'll read it. Follow your MOUSE
Post #257,991 by tuberculosis 6/7/06 2:20:40 PM Reply	Yeah but Rincewind and the Luggage appear in - what - all of 3 books? Furthermore, there is no explanation of the Luggage's resurrection after leaping off of the discworld in Color. I don't think its exactly a linear progression there. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #258,007 by admin 6/7/06 3:27:36 PM Reply	8 of them. "Eric" being one of them, "Sourcery" another. The Luggage doesn't need an explanation. It just follows Rincewind, no matter what. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,078 by ben_tilly 6/7/06 11:43:56 PM Reply	Which 8? I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #258,124 by admin 6/8/06 10:01:38 AM Reply	Re: Which 8? [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincewind\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincewind] Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #258,148 by hnick 6/8/06 11:44:58 AM Reply	Interesting... you learn something new every... I've never seen "The last hero" in bookstores around here. Gives me something to look for. It would be nice if I've just overlooked it. I'm sick of reading RFCs and functional specs and need a change, but none of my favorite authors have come out with anything new in the last couple months.
Post #258,084 by static 6/8/06 12:06:05 AM Reply	Didn't the Octavo save it in TLF? It's been a while since I read those, I must admit. But then, the Luggage is capable of going anywhere to follow Rincewind, so if the Octavo rescued him, them the Luggage would find a way to tag along. Wade. "Insert crowbar. Apply force."
Post #261,710 by Arkadiy 7/14/06 12:55:25 PM Reply	There are basicaly four threads Rincewind, Vimes, Death/Susan and witches. Of course, they intertwine and cross-pollinate a lot. The Rincewind is the original thread, and it also happens to be the one I like least. "The Color of Magic" and "The Light Fantastic" are the first to books there, if I remember correctly. It goes on to Equal Rites, Sourcery, Eric, Interesting Times (that one is good), The Last Continent and I guess The Last Hero. Vimes starts with Guards,Guards and goes on to Men at Arms, Feet of Clay, Fifth Elephant, Jingo, Night Watch, Thud. Withes (I like that one qute a lot) starts with Wyrd Sisters, then Witches Abroad, Carper Jugulum, Lords and Ladies, Maskerade. The Death/Susan series starts with Mort (not sure if you really want to start there, but that's chronological order), then goes to Reaper Man, Soul Music, Hogfather, Thief of Time. And then there are somewhat standalone items: Small Gods, Pyramids, The Truth (better read somewhere in the middle of Vimes series), Going Postal (extremely recommended to geeks - it's got GNU in it! Better read after Feet of clay), Monstrous Regiment (better read after Fifth Elephant and The Truth). ------ 179. I will not outsource core functions. -- [link\|http://omega.med.yale.edu/~pcy5/misc/overlord2.htm\|.]
Post #261,714 by Another Scott 7/14/06 1:15:10 PM Reply	Thanks, Ark. I appreciate it.
Post #261,715 by inthane-chan 7/14/06 1:29:39 PM Reply	There's also this map... [link\|http://www.lspace.org/books/reading-order-guides/the-discworld-reading-order-guide-colour-1-25.gif\|http://www.lspace.or...e-colour-1-25.gif] Hurt me if you must, but let the duckie go!
Post #261,720 by Another Scott 7/14/06 1:33:07 PM Reply	Thank you too. Now no more posts in this thread! :-)
Post #261,725 by drewk 7/14/06 1:41:28 PM Reply	Good lord, he's prolific === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #257,935 by ben_tilly 6/6/06 9:26:36 PM Reply	Don't thumb through it Read the first 10 pages. Do Not Skip Footnotes. (He often sets up recurring jokes in footnotes, and you won't get the jokes unless you've read the footnote.) See whether you've laughed. If I knew better what you like, I'd know which one to recommend. There are several semi-independent series and a few stand alone books. I'd suggest starting with the start of one of the series, or with a stand alone book. Lemme look at a list. [link\|http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/p/terry-pratchett/\|http://www.fantastic.../terry-pratchett/] I'd say that good starting points include books 1, 3-14, 17, 20, and 26. Particularly good starting points might include 13, 14, 3, 8, 12 and 6. (Yeah, yeah, 12 is in the same series as 6, but a very different setting.) As others have mentioned, the series started with #1, The Color of Magic, but he hadn't really hit his pace yet. In particular you'll notice that a lot of characters change personalities a lot over the first few books. My personal favorite is probably 14, Lords and Ladies. The only one I haven't read yet is the last, Thud. If you scroll down to the children's books, I've read several of them and like them. Incidentally in some sense the first Discworld book was Strata (which I quite liked), but that was a science fiction book and is clearly not in the same series. But it is interesting to see how ideas introduced there evolved through the series. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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