Post #256,038
5/19/06 7:57:36 PM
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Today I had to sit for an exam
To get certified as an addictions counselor. I didnt feel up to going, but it has been scheduled for months. It took 2.5 hours and I wasnt nearly as prepared for it as I should've been. I left there exhausted with a pounding headache. Then I got stuck in construction traffic, and the only thought I had was, "boy, I need a drink".
That's pretty funny.
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #256,040
5/19/06 8:16:23 PM
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What was the definition of alcoholic?
It used to be that the test that doctors were taught to use was, "If he drinks more than you, then he's an alcoholic."
Given the amount of alcohol that it was customary for doctors to consume at the time, this test was more accurate than you might expect.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #256,057
5/20/06 6:47:48 AM
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Re: What was the definition of alcoholic?
When you need a drink to stay normal.
That's alcoholic.
Peter
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Post #256,058
5/20/06 8:39:42 AM
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depends on the deginition of normal doesnt it
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Post #256,117
5/20/06 6:20:53 PM
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These days the working definition is
if you are repeatedly experiencing negative consequences as a result of your drinking and you don't modify your behavior, you're an alcoholic. Negative consequences include things like wrecking your car, losing your job etc.
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Post #256,119
5/20/06 6:24:56 PM
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AKA "staying normal"
Peter
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Post #256,124
5/20/06 6:48:19 PM
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Not necessarily
Because you can abuse etoh and experience negative consequences and not have a physiological/pyschological dependency.
Or, you can be etoh dependent and not experience any negative consequences because you have an army of enablers protecting you from from said consequences.
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Post #256,069
5/20/06 11:15:55 AM
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You're more or less right.
But the term "alcoholic" isnt a diagnostic label. We look at etoh use on a continuum- a progression of use from etoh use--->abuse----> etoh dependence. Someone who is at the end stage of dependence would be your classic alcoholic- someone who has both a physiological and psychological addiction and is at risk of withdrawal if they stop drinking.
I'm working with a client who suffers from severe withdrawal symptoms- seizures, DT's, etc. She drinks to keep from dying. She has been sober for 6 months, but any uncomfortable physical feeling she experiences can trigger a relapse, because in her mind,she irrationally believes any physical sensation is the start of a seizure and she then has the urge to drink to stay alive. She perceives this belief to be rational because for the last 25 years, this has been her life. Every day is a battle for her. She hasnt relapsed yet and she is one of the most courageous women I have ever met.
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Post #256,054
5/20/06 2:05:52 AM
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Thats a tough one.
But you are a tough one so . . . .
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Post #258,349
6/9/06 8:55:05 PM
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I got my scores today
90th percentile. I am now fully certified to handle all of your addiction needs.
Dont all line up at once.
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Post #258,351
6/9/06 9:34:03 PM
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Ironic
Your declaration of your certification to handle my addiction needs feeds my addiction to IWETHEY. :-)
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #258,353
6/9/06 9:47:21 PM
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Excellent! Should we invite Cable back?
Just kidding.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #258,359
6/9/06 10:32:16 PM
8/21/07 5:46:08 AM
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I don't think that was exactly an addition problem
Anyhow- Hell NO!
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Post #258,360
6/9/06 10:34:58 PM
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He didn't know how to ADD?
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Post #258,356
6/9/06 10:12:57 PM
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Way to go!
Now to find an addiction....:)
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Post #258,371
6/9/06 11:44:07 PM
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I can share a few good ones with you.
*snicker*
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Post #258,383
6/10/06 2:22:19 AM
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there's an invitation...
congrats on your new certification. I'm sure you'll have no shortage of customers.
Have fun,
Carl Forde
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Post #258,388
6/10/06 6:12:36 AM
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Impressive!
It is said that when people get older, they lose mental acuity. 90th percentile? No mediocracy for you! Still bursting in and changing the world.
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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Post #258,392
6/10/06 8:48:55 AM
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Why, thank you!
I was pretty pleased, because I felt terrible that day and didnt think I did very well.
Guess I still got it. :-)
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get dressed and save the world...
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Post #259,134
6/16/06 10:35:52 AM
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Just imagine how well you'd have done...
...If you were feeling 100%!
Which just goes to show that: 1) you knew the stuff cold, and 2) you deserved it.
Woot and Yay! for you, 'nerd!
jb4
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Post #258,389
6/10/06 6:54:27 AM
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Too early in the morning
FIrst read, Handle your addition.
anyways, congratulation of being certified. We always knew you should be. :-)
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. (Herm Albright)
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Post #258,424
6/10/06 7:55:58 PM
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Woo! Nicely done!
Now I'll have to go out and get myself addicted to something. Else.
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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