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Post #255,286 by tuberculosis 5/12/06 6:25:43 PM Reply	By chance I just ordered Vonage a couple days ago Because I'm sick of Qwest's crummy service. Yes, I know its potentially less secure - or is it? We'll soon see. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #255,295 by a6l6e6x 5/12/06 8:33:32 PM Reply	Quest is the one that did not turn over the call records. And all internet traffic is monitored. Got any more ideas? Alex When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
Post #255,297 by Another Scott 5/12/06 8:58:53 PM Reply	... and the NSA is really good at listening to stuff too. [link\|http://www.nsa.gov/sigint/index.cfm\|Signals Intelligence]. The only thing that keeps them from using the same techniques in the USA are the law (and its sometimes selective interpretation)... Cheers, Scott.
Post #255,320 by tuberculosis 5/13/06 2:45:59 AM Reply	PGP VOIP? Its early but from what I can see, streaming voice data isn't so easy to intercept and analyze. I could be wrong. I do expect to be able to add encryption tunnels. I ditched Qwest for several other reasons involving non-performance. Frankly, I suspect they didn't comply because they don't have the technical skills to. [link\|http://www.blackbagops.net\|Black Bag Operations Log] [link\|http://www.objectiveclips.com\|Artificial Intelligence] [link\|http://www.badpage.info/seaside/html\|Scrutinizer]
Post #255,325 by ben_tilly 5/13/06 3:10:59 AM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #255324 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=255324\|ICLRPD] I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #255,336 by boxley 5/13/06 11:29:10 AM Reply	they do,cdr's are the most reliable piece of the technology Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

Run. Get out while you can. etc. - (jb4) - (17) - May 12, 2006, 02:13:14 PM EDT

live free or die has been replaced by - (boxley) - (2) - May 12, 2006, 01:09:42 PM EDT

Careful! That post is now part of the NSA Database! -NT - (jb4) - (1) - May 12, 2006, 02:14:34 PM EDT

Y'know, if things ever get so bad... - (inthane-chan) - May 12, 2006, 02:29:11 PM EDT

I'm too scared to laugh anymore -NT - (warmachine) - May 12, 2006, 03:50:28 PM EDT

I call bullshit. - (Silverlock) - (12) - May 12, 2006, 04:45:54 PM EDT

Seconded - (tjsinclair) - (8) - May 12, 2006, 05:16:03 PM EDT

Here ya go. - (Another Scott) - (7) - May 12, 2006, 05:28:22 PM EDT

Just got off the phone with Verizon - (tjsinclair) - (6) - May 12, 2006, 05:43:07 PM EDT

By chance I just ordered Vonage a couple days ago - (tuberculosis) - (5) - May 12, 2006, 06:25:43 PM EDT

Quest is the one that did not turn over the call records. - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - May 12, 2006, 08:33:32 PM EDT

... and the NSA is really good at listening to stuff too. - (Another Scott) - May 12, 2006, 08:58:53 PM EDT

PGP VOIP? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - May 13, 2006, 02:45:59 AM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - May 13, 2006, 03:10:59 AM EDT

they do,cdr's are the most reliable piece of the technology -NT - (boxley) - May 13, 2006, 11:29:10 AM EDT

thinking of filing an FCC complaint if a few others followed - (boxley) - (2) - May 13, 2006, 11:31:55 AM EDT

Sounds like a good idea to me -NT - (ben_tilly) - May 13, 2006, 02:49:10 PM EDT

Get on board. - (a6l6e6x) - May 14, 2006, 01:18:15 AM EDT

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