Chicago gangs claim their turf in Iraq

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Post #253,991 by lincoln 5/1/06 9:26:52 AM Reply	Chicago gangs claim their turf in Iraq The Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings and Vice Lords were born decades ago in Chicago's most violent neighborhoods. Now, their gang graffiti is showing up 6,400 miles away in one of the world's most dangerous neighborhoods -- Iraq. Armored vehicles, concrete barricades and bathroom walls all have served as canvasses for their spray-painted gang art. At Camp Cedar II, about 185 miles southeast of Baghdad, a guard shack was recently defaced with "GDN" for Gangster Disciple Nation, along with the gang's six-pointed star and the word "Chitown," a soldier who photographed it said. The graffiti, captured on film by an Army Reservist and provided to the Chicago Sun-Times, highlights increasing gang activity in the Army in the United States and overseas, some experts say. [link\|http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gangs01.html\|source] lincoln "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *Citizen* of the United States. [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #253,995 by dmcarls 5/1/06 10:29:57 AM Reply	Army recruiters eager to meet their goals Yes, I saw that story on the way to work today. Interesting turn of events. from the same story: [...] "'Lowering our standards' "Sometimes there is a definition issue here on what constitutes gang activity. If someone wears baggy pants and a scarf, that does not make them a gang member unless there is evidence to show that person is involved in violent or criminal activity," Grey said. Barfield said Army recruiters eager to meet their goals have been overlooking applicants' gang tattoos and getting waivers for criminal backgrounds. "We're lowering our standards," Barfield said. "A friend of mine is a recruiter," he said. "They are being told less than five tattoos is not an issue. More than five, you do a waiver saying it's not gang-related. You'll see soldiers with a six-pointed star with GD [Gangster Disciples] on the right forearm." Fort Lewis offers free tattoo removal, but few if any soldiers with gang tattoos have taken advantage of the service, Barfield said.
Post #253,996 by boxley 5/1/06 10:48:10 AM Reply	I would prefer them to be in Iraq rather than in chitown Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #254,010 by jake123 5/1/06 12:18:01 PM Reply	I dunno, I can see that the real problem may be when they come back with a lot of heavy weapons training and a much higher tolerance for using violence as a tool. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #254,013 by boxley 5/1/06 12:28:40 PM Reply	being in an inner city gang you already have a much higher tolerance for using violence as a tool. As for the heavy weapons training (shrug) the better idea is that they learn to interact with people of different color and backgrounds with a common enemy. A lot of these kids may have never spoken with a white kid as a peer, only as an abstract. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

Chicago gangs claim their turf in Iraq - (lincoln) - (4) - May 1, 2006, 09:26:52 AM EDT

Army recruiters eager to meet their goals - (dmcarls) - May 1, 2006, 10:29:57 AM EDT

I would prefer them to be in Iraq rather than in chitown -NT - (boxley) - (2) - May 1, 2006, 10:48:10 AM EDT

I dunno, I can see that the real problem may be - (jake123) - (1) - May 1, 2006, 12:18:01 PM EDT

being in an inner city gang you already have - (boxley) - May 1, 2006, 12:28:40 PM EDT

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