As the story says

When in court or testifying before Congress, if you answer [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_fifth|any] question you can't then assert your right to avoid self-incrimination.

But if you consent to let someone come into your home, you don't automatically consent to let them do what they want. If you let someone give you an examination, you don't automatically consent to let them sexually assault you. More specifically, consenting to a breast exam doesn't strike me as automatically consenting to a genital exam.

And [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_%28criminal%29|consent under false pretenses] isn't really valid consent, is it?

Hence, most states have laws which criminalize misrepresentations, deceptions and fraud. These are situations in which a victim may have given apparent consent to parting with ownership or possession of money and/or goods or generally suffering a loss, but this consent is treated as vitiated by the dishonesty of the person making the untrue representations.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #253,094 by lincoln 4/23/06 11:33:05 AM Reply	As the story says two women who accepted the offer, police said on Thursday. they accepted, they consented. Thus, no assault. lincoln "Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a *Citizen* of the United States. [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #253,108 by Another Scott 4/23/06 1:13:31 PM Reply	It's not like giving up your 5th Amendment rights. When in court or testifying before Congress, if you answer [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_the_fifth\|any] question you can't then assert your right to avoid self-incrimination. But if you consent to let someone come into your home, you don't automatically consent to let them do what they want. If you let someone give you an examination, you don't automatically consent to let them sexually assault you. More specifically, consenting to a breast exam doesn't strike me as automatically consenting to a genital exam. And [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_%28criminal%29\|consent under false pretenses] isn't really valid consent, is it? Hence, most states have laws which criminalize misrepresentations, deceptions and fraud. These are situations in which a victim may have given apparent consent to parting with ownership or possession of money and/or goods or generally suffering a loss, but this consent is treated as vitiated by the dishonesty of the person making the untrue representations. Cheers, Scott.
Post #253,110 by boxley 4/23/06 1:27:19 PM Reply	if he pulled teeth without a dnetla degree/license its assault, no difference. thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

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