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by drewk
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4/4/06 10:53:24 PM
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New The conclusion doesn't follow
Researchers in Spain assigned 21 people with high cholesterol to eat a high-fat breakfast including either regular virgin oil, or the same oil refined to remove most of the phenols, a class of anti-oxidants.

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Any nontropical vegetable oil is better for you than butter, palm oil, or coconut oil, all loaded with artery-clogging saturated fat, or margarine, high in trans fat, which maybe harder on the heart.
The study referenced compared regular virgin oil to a specially processed oil that had lowered phenols, not lowered cholesterol. The conclusion about tropical oils is not addressed by this study.
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Post #251,164
by a6l6e6x
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4/5/06 10:48:48 PM
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New Re: The conclusion doesn't follow
Agree that statement is gratuitous and is outside the scope of the experiment itself. I guess is "value add" from the doctor that wrote the piece.
Alex
When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
     Low calorie almost no cholesterol scrampled eggs - (broomberg) - (36) - April 3, 2006, 08:55:51 PM EDT
         Ugh - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 4, 2006, 01:30:11 AM EDT
             Bike doesn't cut cholesterol - (broomberg) - (1) - April 4, 2006, 07:30:27 AM EDT
                 Bike will help control whether it gets put in your body - (jake123) - April 4, 2006, 10:09:08 AM EDT
         Better to use 2 egg whites and a quarter cup of egg beaters - (bepatient) - (1) - April 4, 2006, 09:21:23 AM EDT
             Yes, agreed. - (folkert) - April 4, 2006, 09:51:07 AM EDT
         dump the whites and use clotted cream instead -NT - (boxley) - (3) - April 4, 2006, 12:29:30 PM EDT
             Okay, so your recipe for scrambled eggs includes no eggs? -NT - (drewk) - (2) - April 4, 2006, 12:37:03 PM EDT
                 yolks, no whites and clotted cream -NT - (boxley) - April 4, 2006, 01:03:43 PM EDT
                 Hmm. Kind of screws up the low cholesterol part. - (bepatient) - April 4, 2006, 01:09:25 PM EDT
         What's wrong with cholesterol? - (tuberculosis) - (25) - April 4, 2006, 02:42:26 PM EDT
             High good cholesterol trumps low bad cholesterol - (admin) - (4) - April 4, 2006, 02:51:39 PM EDT
                 Yeah yeah, it'll be different next year - (tuberculosis) - (2) - April 4, 2006, 04:58:45 PM EDT
                     Extra virgin olive oil sure is - (jake123) - (1) - April 4, 2006, 05:03:45 PM EDT
                         Got a volcano out back needs stoking? Big project coming up? - (hnick) - April 4, 2006, 05:40:14 PM EDT
                 LDL / HDL thing being reevaluated. - (Andrew Grygus) - April 4, 2006, 06:01:45 PM EDT
             Um...there might be something to it - (bepatient) - (19) - April 4, 2006, 07:08:03 PM EDT
                 About 80% is non-diet-related in most people. - (Another Scott) - (15) - April 4, 2006, 07:28:39 PM EDT
                     There are plenty of errors in that link. - (Andrew Grygus) - (14) - April 4, 2006, 08:47:35 PM EDT
                         Re: Olive oil and seeds and nuts - (a6l6e6x) - (12) - April 4, 2006, 10:22:31 PM EDT
                             The conclusion doesn't follow - (drewk) - (1) - April 4, 2006, 10:53:24 PM EDT
                                 Re: The conclusion doesn't follow - (a6l6e6x) - April 5, 2006, 10:48:48 PM EDT
                             I wouldn't be surprised . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - April 4, 2006, 10:59:04 PM EDT
                                 Didn't you say Canola was good for frying? - (drewk) - (8) - April 4, 2006, 11:30:29 PM EDT
                                     Canola (rapeseed) was "re-purposed" from machine lube . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - April 5, 2006, 12:55:36 AM EDT
                                         Another oil question - (drewk) - (6) - April 5, 2006, 05:29:27 PM EDT
                                             Very simple. - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - April 5, 2006, 06:41:27 PM EDT
                                                 do you scrub your board with bleach - (boxley) - (4) - April 5, 2006, 06:44:37 PM EDT
                                                     I scrub my board, knife and hands immediately . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - April 5, 2006, 07:50:52 PM EDT
                                                         Bleach is a good thing - (drewk) - April 5, 2006, 08:34:03 PM EDT
                                                         rather eat wood shavings than nylon -NT - (boxley) - (1) - April 5, 2006, 09:14:01 PM EDT
                                                             I salute your inner termite. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 5, 2006, 11:28:29 PM EDT
                         It's just one of the early ones that popped up. - (Another Scott) - April 4, 2006, 11:22:56 PM EDT
                 I think exercise and general moderation have the most impact - (tuberculosis) - (2) - April 4, 2006, 11:16:15 PM EDT
                     Yeah, and it really toasts the do-gooders . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - April 5, 2006, 01:09:19 AM EDT
                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (imqwerky) - April 5, 2006, 09:54:19 AM EDT
         Old "science" - (Andrew Grygus) - April 4, 2006, 02:56:58 PM EDT

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