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Post #250,836 by andread 4/4/06 9:11:39 AM Reply	Freakonomics Silly book: despite authors claims 1) does not prove that public school teachers were altering test scores 2) does not show why ghetto guys deal drugs and relies on third hand anecdotes for some of its assertions like there is a black kid named Shithead (pronounced shuh-teed) A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #251,564 by ben_tilly 4/10/06 12:37:12 PM Reply	Disagree on #1 The book didn't go through all of the details with the reader, but I understand statistics well enough to know that the test described was going to be pretty good. The follow-up experiment clinched it. They didn't catch all the cheaters. But they caught a bunch. And the ones they called cheaters, really were cheaters. On #2, their explanation was incomplete. But still interesting for all that. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #251,607 by andread 4/10/06 3:33:10 PM Reply	Re: Disagree on #1 they showed that someone may have been altering scores but not necessarily the classroom teachers as they said there are many administrators up the line with vested interests in improved scores as well A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]
Post #251,658 by GBert 4/10/06 8:57:50 PM Reply	Either way... Q.What do you get when you throw the baby out with the bath water? A.No child left behind. Have whatever values you have. That's what America is for. You don't need George Bush for that.
Post #251,689 by ben_tilly 4/10/06 10:54:25 PM Reply	Good point I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #252,367 by Another Scott 4/15/06 10:12:18 PM Reply	OT: Very nice music to do ones taxes to. Thanks. :-)
Post #252,503 by andread 4/18/06 4:44:43 PM Reply	Re: OT: Very nice music to do ones taxes to. Thanks. :-) thanks for listening A Play I Some Music w/ Papa Andy Saturday 8 PM - 11 PM ET All Night Rewind 11 PM - 5 PM Reggae, African and Caribbean Music [link\|http://wxxe.org\|Tune In]

Freakonomics - (andread) - (6) - April 4, 2006, 09:11:39 AM EDT

Disagree on #1 - (ben_tilly) - (5) - April 10, 2006, 12:37:12 PM EDT

Re: Disagree on #1 - (andread) - (4) - April 10, 2006, 03:33:10 PM EDT

Either way... - (GBert) - April 10, 2006, 08:57:50 PM EDT

Good point -NT - (ben_tilly) - April 10, 2006, 10:54:25 PM EDT

OT: Very nice music to do ones taxes to. Thanks. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - April 15, 2006, 10:12:18 PM EDT

Re: OT: Very nice music to do ones taxes to. Thanks. :-) - (andread) - April 18, 2006, 04:44:43 PM EDT

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