Post #248,950
3/22/06 9:30:20 PM
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Interesting if a muslim becomes christian, he must be insane
[link|http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2098703,00.html|http://www.timesonli...3-2098703,00.html] But yesterday it appeared that the case could be dismissed on a technicality if Mr Rahman were found mentally unfit to stand trial.
A relative described the defendant as \ufffdsilly and like a child\ufffd. \ufffdI am scared because he is my brother and he is not 100 per cent healthy \ufffd he has psychological problems.\ufffd nice lawyering there. thanx, bill
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Post #248,953
3/22/06 9:54:46 PM
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Didn't someone here just address this?
Yes, I know who it was. He went to great lengths to point out he's not a Koranic scholar and insisted we should each read it ourselves to understand. But he helpfully quoted several passages saying that anyone trying to convert away from Islam was to be condemned. Of course, he was trying to make the point that the Koran does not say go kill everyone who's not a Muslim. This case points out the other edge to that sword.
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Post #248,958
3/22/06 11:35:58 PM
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This is huge news in Canada
it could lead to us pulling our troops out of the country.
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Post #249,000
3/23/06 10:25:12 AM
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Good timing
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Post #249,201
3/24/06 2:12:01 PM
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Further information:
From the [link|http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=410403|Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel] Kabul, Afghanistan - Senior Muslim clerics demanded Thursday that an Afghan man on trial for converting from Islam to Christianity be executed, warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces."
In an unusual move, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice telephoned President Hamid Karzai seeking a "favorable resolution" of the case of Abdul Rahman, 41. The former medical aid worker faces the death penalty under Afghanistan's Islamic laws for becoming a Christian.
His trial has fired passions in this conservative Muslim nation and highlighted a conflict of values between Afghanistan and its Western backers.
"Rejecting Islam is insulting God. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die," said cleric Abdul Raoulf, who is considered a moderate and who was jailed three times for opposing the Taliban before the hard-line regime was ousted in 2001.
[more...] If this weren't so serious, I'd find it rolling-on-the-floor laughable. For one thing, the concept that "God can be humiliated" in the words of some fundie whack-jhob [sic] is absolutely ludicrous; if Muslims would shut up for just a second and actually read and reflect upon the words of their "script", they'd know that such a statement is complete and utter nonsense; Their God is so far beyond such petty encumbrances as human emotion and/or pride as to render such a concept meaningless. And then there is the mob action aspect of it: "[...] warning that if the government caves in to Western pressure and frees him, they will incite people to "pull him into pieces." Puh-fucking-LEEEZE! There's a press release for "the tolerance of Islam" alright!
jb4 "Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'." &mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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Post #249,217
3/24/06 6:22:02 PM
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Note that this fundie wack job is actually MODERATE...
for Afghanistan.
Cheers, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #249,218
3/24/06 6:26:05 PM
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Hey Systems!
Kill? Or not Kill?
Simple question.
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Post #249,227
3/24/06 7:45:29 PM
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everyone want to go heaven, nobody want dead
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Post #249,286
3/25/06 10:56:41 AM
3/25/06 10:57:02 AM
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I saw that...
...and decided that the difference between a "moderate" and a completely whacked-out nutjob is whether or not his brother-in-law happens to be in a position of prominence within the ruling junta that week.
jb4 "Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'." &mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
Edited by jb4
March 25, 2006, 10:57:02 AM EST
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Post #249,288
3/25/06 10:58:30 AM
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sounds like here :-)
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Post #249,290
3/25/06 11:00:01 AM
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+5 perceptive
jb4 "Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'." &mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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