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New Well, if a one lacks all life-experience of the ineffable -
that one shall be an easy convert to the religion of a-theism.

Clearly, and as so many sages have observed - the sane interpretation, that of agnosticism (we may spare ourselves the re- redefinitions, I trust) - is the default locus for those who have grokked that there 'IS' more than the (maya) world-of-appearances and of boring old F=MA.

There are many orthogonal Dilbert-spaces and others not at all Dilbertian, reachable from that locus; meanwhile the Declared 'a-theist' has sent them all --> dev null, for perhaps.. a laziness of mentation? a curious inCuriosity? ..or maybe merely, an inhumanly mechanical set of base habits.

And then there's - -

New Re: Well, if a one lacks all life-experience of the ineffabl
There are many orthogonal Dilbert-spaces and others not at all Dilbertian, reachable from that locus; meanwhile the Declared 'a-theist' has sent them all --> dev null, for perhaps.. a laziness of mentation? a curious inCuriosity? ..or maybe merely, an inhumanly mechanical set of base habits.

There is more to existance then mankind knows or can know. But I refuse to spend much time thinking about the part that mankind can't know*. There is more in the part we can then I will be able to understand in my life anyway.

Jay

* Notice that I didn't say none. There can be some benefit in such musing, to learn better the process of learning or to use the study of the unknowable as a mirror to one's own mind. But the study of the unknowable is pointless as an endevor unto itself.
New You're begining to sound like Donald Rumsfeld! :)
Via [link|http://www.slate.com/id/2081042/|Slate]:
The Unknown

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don't know
We don't know.

\ufffdFeb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
Alex

When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. -- Sinclair Lewis
New I actually like that bit from Don.
New Speaking of tautologies
But the study of the unknowable is pointless as an endevor unto itself.
'The Unknowable' is a predigested supposition.
There are words like 'apperception', whose near-synonyms describe possible means of transcending learned habits of not Seeing very much around us. But only experiment ever takes these beyond mere word games, natch. (Still, poetry has a better chance than prose, in such matters.)

Summing up for the precious few who have gone before, rather than accepting that the Sound Barrier cannot be broken -

Always choose the difficult.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke

A Glimpse.. will tantalize -
Two Glimpses? usually galvanize.
YMMV

     An Atheist Manifesto - (JayMehaffey) - (14)
         Reminds me of a quote - (warmachine) - (3)
             (Jesus was a communist; they hadn't invented the label yet) -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                 Makes you wonder how the properly labeled communists - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                     That seems an easy one - (Ashton)
         Interesting link - (rcareaga) - (9)
             Re: Interesting link - (JayMehaffey) - (8)
                 That's not 'atheism' - - (Ashton) - (7)
                     Yes it is - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                         Possibly misquoted Pratchett: - (Arkadiy)
                         Well, if a one lacks all life-experience of the ineffable - - (Ashton) - (4)
                             Re: Well, if a one lacks all life-experience of the ineffabl - (JayMehaffey) - (3)
                                 You're begining to sound like Donald Rumsfeld! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                     I actually like that bit from Don. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 Speaking of tautologies - (Ashton)

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