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New He's a good MP...
...but is unwilling or unable to vote against his whip? I dunno what criteria you use to determine the Kgoodness of your representatives back on the Continent, but around here, we have this rather provincial attitude that a representative needs to represent his constituents, not dictate to them what The Imperial He is going to do. If the vast majority of the people in your district (or whatever you call them out there) is in favor of ID cards, then he is a good representative, and you need to find new digs! If, on the other hand, the majority of the people he so poignantly claims to represent see that ID cards are tripe, then he is the lazy, slothful, spineless wimp of a MORON that I submitted to you much earlier in this thread, and he needs to find a new job (there are plenty of places in the Body Corproate where he'll fit in right nicely). I don't know you local politics...what is your district's bent in this area?
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
New You're all excitable, aren't you?
He's not a moron; morons don't have two degrees and a doctorate (in proper, hard sciences: Chemical Engineering (BSc), Process Analysis and Control Theory (MSc), Fluid Mechanics (PhD) - these qualify him as a Clever Bastard™), and morons don't get re-elected in formerly hostile constituencies.

To be honest, when you start frothing like that, I stop listening; that may be the way American politics is conducted, but we do things slightly differently over here. I can guarantee you that if I write to him and call him names, he'll write back saying "thank you for your letter" and that'll be the end of the dialogue.

And you really need to understand how a party whip works in a parliamentary democracy before diving in feet first; it's neither as simple nor as clear-cut as you seem to think.

Sorry if this sounds boringly condescending.


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New Heheh.
Politic is more fun over there; first time I saw it on CNN I thought I was seening an episode of Monty Python I had somehow missed...

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  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Not a moron. Just another whore. Same as ours.
You're just as fucked as we are. Sorry about that...

OT: Do you have any good guess at how many idiots I have in my corproate infrastucture that have advanced degrees? This turkey might actually be a clever bastard but if he gave up the ability to know right from wrong he's just another fucking lawyer. But what do I know? How many idiots do we put in public office?
New To answer your question ...
Q: How many idiots do we put in public office?

A: All of them.




And that doesn't even require a [sarcasm] tag. Is there a [truth] tag?
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New Nah... Not enough room.
Got A LOTTA idiots
New On second thought...
my response was like the single-issue gomers that I generally tend to despise. My bad...
Now, how,in a free society do we get our representitives to actually represent us? Is giving use 80% of what we want acceptable? It's a "B" most places... better than you would normally expect from government. On the other paw, if you're only 20% buggered, you're still buggered.
There has to be some accountability.
New Now you're just being thick
I can guarantee you that if I write to him and call him names, he'll write back saying "thank you for your letter" and that'll be the end of the dialogue.
I wouldn't write him and call him names, and if you read carefully (at least, more carefully that you apparently have), I've been advocating all along that he be written to solicit for an apology for quite clearly stating that people who don't agree with his scripted dronings in this area are criminals. If it ever got down to a face-to-face, and he were to refuse to apologize, then (and only then) might some thunder need to be invoked.
[...] that may be the way American politics is conducted, but we do things slightly differently over here.
Yes, you blokes seem to prefer shouting back and forth across the aisle at one another...
And you really need to understand how a party whip works in a parliamentary democracy before diving in feet first;[...]
See [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=245969|this post] for my response to jake123's attempts to enlighten me.
Sorry if this sounds boringly condescending.
Yes...well it is consistent with what one would expect in your posts.
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
New Re: Now you're just being thick
Sorry if this sounds boringly condescending.
Yes...well it is consistent with what one would expect in your posts.

Oh, fuck off.


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New Oh, did you get your widdy biddy fewings hurt?
So, it's ok for you to be a smug smartass, but when somebody brings it back atcha, you get all huffy?

Baby, baby, baby!
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
New Not really.
You were being a raving dipshit, and I got tired of it.


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     ID Card bill passed in the Commons. - (pwhysall) - (40)
         Excellent letter. I hope he sees it and takes it to heart. -NT - (Another Scott)
         The saddest aspect is - (Ashton)
         Your question is rhetorical, but the answer is: - (jb4)
         Letter to Ashok Kumar, MP - (pwhysall) - (36)
             Any time to do the transcription? Also IEEE Spectrum. - (Another Scott)
             Reply from Ashok Kumar, MP - (pwhysall) - (31)
                 ...the FRACK? - (inthane-chan)
                 What a fscking MORON! - (jb4) - (16)
                     He's not a moron, that's the problem. - (pwhysall) - (15)
                         OK, let me rephrase that, then... - (jb4) - (14)
                             That's bollocks, too. - (pwhysall) - (13)
                                 Prolly doesn't get some of the finer points of parliamentary - (jake123) - (1)
                                     Thanks for the primer on the finer points of ... - (jb4)
                                 He's a good MP... - (jb4) - (10)
                                     You're all excitable, aren't you? - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                         Heheh. - (imric)
                                         Not a moron. Just another whore. Same as ours. - (hnick) - (3)
                                             To answer your question ... - (drewk) - (1)
                                                 Nah... Not enough room. - (hnick)
                                             On second thought... - (hnick)
                                         Now you're just being thick - (jb4) - (3)
                                             Re: Now you're just being thick - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 Oh, did you get your widdy biddy fewings hurt? - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     Not really. - (pwhysall)
                 In other words, he's not open to contrary evidence. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                     I've already had a really good fume about this. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         I'd smack him upside the haid (verbally, of course)... - (jb4) - (3)
                             I'm going to compose a measured response. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 You must admit, though, it would be rather cathartic. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                     Write it, but don't mail it. - (jbrabeck)
                 Re: Reply from Ashok Kumar, MP - (pwhysall) - (6)
                     Very well stated. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (5)
                         Agreed...Very well stated. However... - (jb4) - (4)
                             "Transparent Society" ... philosophical question - (drewk) - (3)
                                 Exactly what he says. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                     To me, that's not the same - (drewk) - (1)
                                         Who watches the watchmen? - (inthane-chan)
             Send the moron this - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                 Link doesn't work -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     'Cellphone could crack RFID tags, says cryptographer' - (Ashton)

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