Kristen Nygaard and Programmable interfaces - (systems) - (86) - Feb. 1, 2006, 05:14:27 AM EST
         What about his history is interesting? - (ben_tilly) - (85) - Feb. 1, 2006, 09:49:24 PM EST
             Re: What about his history is interesting? - (systems) - (84) - Feb. 2, 2006, 03:40:40 AM EST
                 You would do better to read Alan Kay - (tuberculosis) - (82) - Feb. 2, 2006, 04:04:27 PM EST
                     Wow. - (Arkadiy) - (81) - Feb. 4, 2006, 08:59:38 PM EST
                         Did you see HTML on the list? - (ben_tilly) - (79) - Feb. 6, 2006, 04:09:49 PM EST
                             OK, could you explain? - (Arkadiy) - (78) - Feb. 11, 2006, 07:03:26 PM EST
                                 I think the point is that they're tools that are pretty easy - (jake123) - Feb. 11, 2006, 07:24:33 PM EST
                                 Here's an example - (tuberculosis) - (76) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:13:34 PM EST
                                     lrpd the whole damn thing -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:09:25 PM EST
                                     I admire your pattern of use for computers - (Arkadiy) - (15) - Feb. 12, 2006, 12:45:02 PM EST
                                         Not necessarily so (the "beyond 90%" part). - (pwhysall) - (10) - Feb. 12, 2006, 12:53:11 PM EST
                                             I've got no Mac (yet?) - (Arkadiy) - (9) - Feb. 12, 2006, 03:29:48 PM EST
                                                 squeak.org -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 12, 2006, 04:22:21 PM EST
                                                 Python? - (pwhysall) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2006, 05:19:59 PM EST
                                                     I've seen Python and Squeak - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:27:52 PM EST
                                                         I'm shocked, sir. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:44:42 AM EST
                                                             The 10% who understand things like - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:07:20 PM EST
                                                                 I've seen that smile - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:09:17 PM EST
                                                                     The worst part is, she is righ. - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:13:45 PM EST
                                                                 DWIM?!? - (jb4) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 02:09:11 PM EST
                                                                     do what I meant -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 16, 2006, 02:13:24 PM EST
                                         I don't believe the "crutch" is necessary - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 12, 2006, 04:21:57 PM EST
                                         disagree, recently sent a example of an application - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:00:51 PM EST
                                             A crutch - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:29:12 PM EST
                                             I need to have me a look at that - (pwhysall) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:48:21 AM EST
                                     I'd like that to be true, but don't think it is - (drewk) - (58) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:25:14 PM EST
                                         Ive used that treehouse design, didnt think too much of it - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:51:29 PM EST
                                         You are a prisoner of your assumptions and conditioning - (tuberculosis) - (55) - Feb. 12, 2006, 11:53:09 PM EST
                                             my point is that people use what they know - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 13, 2006, 08:30:08 AM EST
                                                 Yes - exactly - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2006, 04:42:47 PM EST
                                                     sounds like a fax lnp project to me :-) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:24:45 PM EST
                                             There's a central point we seem to differ on - (drewk) - (51) - Feb. 13, 2006, 09:04:53 AM EST
                                                 Yes, you can only think of one thing at a time - (tuberculosis) - (50) - Feb. 13, 2006, 04:55:43 PM EST
                                                     If I missed your point, it's because you forgot to make it - (drewk) - (49) - Feb. 13, 2006, 09:00:32 PM EST
                                                         But the applications *are* the walls - (tuberculosis) - (48) - Feb. 13, 2006, 10:50:05 PM EST
                                                             They're also inevitable - (drewk) - (47) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:32:04 AM EST
                                                                 Necessary for other reasons as well - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:56:41 AM EST
                                                                     There's a couple projects aimed at addressing security - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:15:51 PM EST
                                                                         Bah, break for lunch and people go and end the discussion -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:42:58 PM EST
                                                                             I've made it back to the office - gotta catch up! -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 14, 2006, 03:09:58 PM EST
                                                                     email has walls? think again - (boxley) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:22:35 PM EST
                                                                         That's what client-side encryption is for -NT - (drewk) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:26:09 PM EST
                                                                         As far as most recipients are concerned, it does - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:29:26 PM EST
                                                                             like windows, its the perception of security that counts -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 08:25:23 PM EST
                                                                                 It is more complex than that - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:50:40 PM EST
                                                                 I was the king of level 1 help desk - (tuberculosis) - (37) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:10:28 PM EST
                                                                     Followed a link from the google search - (drewk) - (35) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:41:29 PM EST
                                                                         Hey, I had people who didn't know a menu from a window - (tuberculosis) - (34) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:03:30 PM EST
                                                                             I don't want to keep reinventing things - (drewk) - (33) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:18:58 PM EST
                                                                                 Taxes are probably a bad example. - (Another Scott) - (32) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:59:29 PM EST
                                                                                     Depends on what you want an example of - (drewk) - (31) - Feb. 14, 2006, 04:05:05 PM EST
                                                                                         Bingo - (tuberculosis) - (30) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:32:13 PM EST
                                                                                             You're fighting human nature - (drewk) - (29) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:02:41 PM EST
                                                                                                 Take your last thought a little farther... - (Another Scott) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:59:50 PM EST
                                                                                                 Evidence runs to the contrary - (tuberculosis) - (27) - Feb. 15, 2006, 01:47:00 PM EST
                                                                                                     you can safely ignore drewk - (boxley) - Feb. 15, 2006, 01:59:17 PM EST
                                                                                                     You have a much looser definition of "make stuff" than I do - (drewk) - (25) - Feb. 15, 2006, 03:06:11 PM EST
                                                                                                         Complete Bollocks - (tuberculosis) - (24) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:28:06 PM EST
                                                                                                             You're kidding me, right? - (admin) - (23) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:43:12 PM EST
                                                                                                                 There will always be people too old to learn - (tuberculosis) - (22) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:48:02 PM EST
                                                                                                                     I'll let you tell her she's "too old" to learn - (admin) - (21) - Feb. 15, 2006, 06:04:06 PM EST
                                                                                                                         It's also called respecting someone else's domain - (tonytib) - (20) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:03:06 PM EST
                                                                                                                             Point missed again - (tuberculosis) - (19) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:47:15 PM EST
                                                                                                                                 And you're missing the point we're trying to make. - (admin) - (17) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:50:19 PM EST
                                                                                                                                     I wouldn't say immaterial - (jake123) - (2) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:54:20 PM EST
                                                                                                                                         MP3 is a data format, not an architecture. - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:36:37 PM EST
                                                                                                                                             Not my point - (jake123) - Feb. 16, 2006, 01:01:46 AM EST
                                                                                                                                     I don't give a flip about your point - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:35:24 PM EST
                                                                                                                                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:42:25 PM EST
                                                                                                                                         Uh, yeah. - (admin) - (11) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:35:01 PM EST
                                                                                                                                             I don't have to bow to nobody! - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:56:02 PM EST
                                                                                                                                                 Exactly. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 15, 2006, 10:05:11 PM EST
                                                                                                                                             Right on! - (tonytib) - (8) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:30:54 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                 The ignorance around here is staggering - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Feb. 16, 2006, 01:17:38 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                     We disagree with you, so we're ignorant ... good call -NT - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 16, 2006, 09:06:14 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                         Something about photos - not capable - links - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:33:15 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                             Something about Photoshop, easy to use, etc - (tonytib) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:54:38 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                                 Heck... - (folkert) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:18:35 PM EST
                                                                                                                                                     The arrogance around here is staggering. - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 16, 2006, 09:09:16 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                         Fine - you're all wrong and we'll leave it at that - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:34:53 AM EST
                                                                                                                                                             As soon as you stop misrepresenting me I will - (admin) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:07:44 PM EST
                                                                                                                                 You keep missing the point - (tonytib) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:19:16 PM EST
                                                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (lincoln) - March 3, 2006, 12:07:05 PM EST
                                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:38:04 PM EST
                         The idea is that these are tools for adhoc computing - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 6, 2006, 04:38:29 PM EST
                 The short history.... - (ChrisR) - Feb. 2, 2006, 08:13:20 PM EST