my point is that people use what they know

and all problems are solved with that singular tool. Ask Barry how many times he's been told that "why use perl, plsql can probably do that." Ben is probbly the only perl user that might see a benefit of using something besides perl. Recently after buy the dbi book and asking a lot of dumb questions I was able to finish the script that a co-worker had started for me in perl. Even though in 2 hours I could have re-written it in ksh and it would have worked. Idea being, I need to keep up with the rest of the world.

Now unfortunately the largest telco in the US does all of its inventory, architechture on excel so many of facility folks and admins use that exclusively as a provisioning tool. It sucks mightily with no constraints.

How many shops have excell as the static IP master? Almost all yet people still have problems manageing that. How long would it take to write a constraint using table based http front end to provision stuff without handing out duplicate IP's?

squeek is great and even I can use it but with having to load the standard image file means I cant email code snippets to an ignorant user, I have to have them download a new image for code changes, not as usefull

thanx,
bill

Post #244,373 by boxley 2/13/06 8:30:08 AM Reply	my point is that people use what they know and all problems are solved with that singular tool. Ask Barry how many times he's been told that "why use perl, plsql can probably do that." Ben is probbly the only perl user that might see a benefit of using something besides perl. Recently after buy the dbi book and asking a lot of dumb questions I was able to finish the script that a co-worker had started for me in perl. Even though in 2 hours I could have re-written it in ksh and it would have worked. Idea being, I need to keep up with the rest of the world. Now unfortunately the largest telco in the US does all of its inventory, architechture on excel so many of facility folks and admins use that exclusively as a provisioning tool. It sucks mightily with no constraints. How many shops have excell as the static IP master? Almost all yet people still have problems manageing that. How long would it take to write a constraint using table based http front end to provision stuff without handing out duplicate IP's? squeek is great and even I can use it but with having to load the standard image file means I cant email code snippets to an ignorant user, I have to have them download a new image for code changes, not as usefull thanx, bill Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
Post #244,436 by tuberculosis 2/13/06 4:42:47 PM Reply	Yes - exactly but why do they know that instead of something more appropriate? I totally get where you're coming from BTW when I started researching LNP requirements as one major LEC was storing TN's in a filemaker database. People use what they have - it would be good if they had better stuff though. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #244,442 by boxley 2/13/06 6:24:45 PM Reply	sounds like a fax lnp project to me :-) Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep

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