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Post #242,909
by pwhysall
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1/29/06 7:52:18 AM
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New Whatever, Ash.
ShieldsUP is a DDOS waiting to happen. (Or not waiting at all: who knows?)

(Its usage is also against the AUP of most ISPs - portscanning anything for any reason is usually verboten. You probably won't get caught, though.)

But hey, it's EASY, so therefore it's GOOD.

Gibson knows loads about hard disks and next to bugger-all about security.

I don't genuflect before his image.

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Post #242,915
by inthane-chan
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1/29/06 10:43:04 AM
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New Sorry Ash, but Peter is right here.
Post #242,950
by Ashton
1/30/06 5:35:00 AM
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New I acknowledge those valld criticisms.
But I also accept that - until some DDOS affair is definitely traced back to his site / or / ISPs more uniformly trap port scans.. (or at least sequential ones of this magnitude) -- it's still probably the closest thing to nmap that the clueless will actually use.

And it does, at least - flag the wide-open machines. The user may not grok much, but seeing a lot of red boxes -- just may prompt a few to ask someone to tell them the obvious.

Anyone who manages to close some of those ports, finally - is one less zombie. And isn't that what we mainly bitch about? the millions who don't even know that they don't know shit?


Then again.. likely it is merely Pearls before swine.
Maybe if grc closed its doors, there'd be no perceptible change in the zombie population. But since we can't measure that, anyway - -
     Steve Gibson: "WMF flaw was a deliberate back door". - (Andrew Grygus) - (30) - Jan. 13, 2006, 07:13:31 PM EST
         He needs to adjust his tinfoil IMHO -NT - (altmann) - (9) - Jan. 13, 2006, 08:24:32 PM EST
             He's got a pretty good case - (bepatient) - (8) - Jan. 13, 2006, 09:28:28 PM EST
                 Yup - (broomberg) - Jan. 13, 2006, 09:46:45 PM EST
                 Is there more in it that what was in the transcript? - (altmann) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2006, 03:33:27 AM EST
                     Where'd you find a transcript? - (jb4) - (2) - Jan. 15, 2006, 12:56:46 PM EST
                         On GRC - (Another Scott) - Jan. 15, 2006, 01:00:50 PM EST
                         Podcast is just an MP3 -NT - (drewk) - Jan. 15, 2006, 08:56:10 PM EST
                 A guy over at SysInternals is said to be . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Jan. 14, 2006, 08:05:11 PM EST
                     Sysinternals verdict: Not a back door - (altmann) - (1) - Jan. 21, 2006, 04:21:27 AM EST
                         Just stupidity and incompetence, eh? SOP for M$. -NT - (n3jja) - Jan. 21, 2006, 08:31:13 AM EST
         Seems very unlikely to me - (JayMehaffey) - (13) - Jan. 16, 2006, 03:18:21 PM EST
             But thats just as bad - (bepatient) - (5) - Jan. 16, 2006, 04:07:08 PM EST
                 Do I unnderstand this right? - (drewk) - (3) - Jan. 16, 2006, 05:03:27 PM EST
                     did $MS understand multithreading when they wrote it? -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 16, 2006, 05:17:35 PM EST
                     It is part of that - (JayMehaffey) - Jan. 16, 2006, 06:38:38 PM EST
                     No. - (broomberg) - Jan. 16, 2006, 09:08:08 PM EST
                 I would say not quite as bad - (JayMehaffey) - Jan. 16, 2006, 06:43:55 PM EST
             Microsoft have an explanation. - (static) - (6) - Jan. 18, 2006, 01:02:33 AM EST
                 Artful Dodging - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 16, 2006, 11:01:16 PM EST
                     Link fixed. - (static) - Jan. 18, 2006, 01:08:26 AM EST
                 I like how that "blog" doesn't allow comments, too. -NT - (admin) - Jan. 16, 2006, 11:02:31 PM EST
                 If it's brought forward from legacy stuff . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Jan. 17, 2006, 02:41:55 AM EST
                     Dang. Beat me to it. That was my first thought. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Jan. 17, 2006, 11:03:40 AM EST
                         No default program for WMF = No "critical" vulnerability -NT - (altmann) - Jan. 17, 2006, 08:29:52 PM EST
         Interesting "analysis" / Guess-of-motives - (Ashton) - (5) - Jan. 21, 2006, 06:42:09 AM EST
             Shields up is a waste of time. - (pwhysall) - (4) - Jan. 21, 2006, 11:24:14 AM EST
                 Elitist smugness - (Ashton) - (3) - Jan. 29, 2006, 06:10:34 AM EST
                     Whatever, Ash. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2006, 07:52:18 AM EST
                         Sorry Ash, but Peter is right here. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Jan. 29, 2006, 10:43:04 AM EST
                         I acknowledge those valld criticisms. - (Ashton) - Jan. 30, 2006, 05:35:00 AM EST

I guess you can't gargle with it.
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