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Post #241,874 by jake123 1/19/06 12:27:49 PM Reply	Well, the polls say that the US people don't want to be in Iraq, and that the US people want comprehensive state supported health insurance. There's two policy alternatives right there. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #241,877 by broomberg 1/19/06 12:57:38 PM Reply	Yeah, but what we really mean is we want unlimited cheap oil without wasting money or lives, and we want unlimited free healthcare without wating in line.
Post #241,878 by jake123 1/19/06 1:17:04 PM Reply	Not much you can do for delusionals If that happens to be most of the US, well... they will eventually learn; the only question is will it be the hard way or the easy way? --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #241,904 by Simon_Jester 1/20/06 8:43:03 AM Reply	True, but polls shouldn't dictate policy. Goals should dictate policy. (And polls should dictate goals....well, maybe) Anyway, once we're in Iraq, there's not much we can do (except leave). Trying to specify that they will have, oh, Calabi (or, whatever his name is) as Oil Minister (when we're claiming to set them up with a democracy) is proabably a bad idea, but is it policy?
Post #241,914 by jake123 1/20/06 11:06:31 AM Reply	Yes They sort of have two contradictory goals in Iraq as stated... 'they're going to have a democracy as long as we like the resulting government.' But of course, there's stated policy and there's real policy. The two are not necessarily the same, and I think a lot of problem that people outside the US have with the Bush regime is that the divergence between the two is much wider than usual, and not in a good way. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------

Chomsky checks in... - (dmcarls) - (13) - Jan. 19, 2006, 10:07:27 AM EST

Thanks for the linky. -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 19, 2006, 10:34:24 AM EST

What I find amazing - (JayMehaffey) - (11) - Jan. 19, 2006, 10:44:34 AM EST

Of course, he doesn't offer any specific alternatives... -NT - (Another Scott) - (10) - Jan. 19, 2006, 10:46:24 AM EST

Yes he did - (jake123) - (9) - Jan. 19, 2006, 11:01:07 AM EST

I meant policy alternatives. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Jan. 19, 2006, 11:16:34 AM EST

Well, the polls say - (jake123) - (4) - Jan. 19, 2006, 12:27:49 PM EST

Yeah, but what we really mean is - (broomberg) - (1) - Jan. 19, 2006, 12:57:38 PM EST

Not much you can do for delusionals - (jake123) - Jan. 19, 2006, 01:17:04 PM EST

True, but polls - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2006, 08:43:03 AM EST

Yes - (jake123) - Jan. 20, 2006, 11:06:31 AM EST

Disagree - (andread) - (2) - Jan. 20, 2006, 09:54:21 AM EST

Well said. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 20, 2006, 08:08:35 PM EST

Re: Disagree - (Ashton) - Jan. 23, 2006, 10:45:22 PM EST

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