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New Isn't this racial profiling?
Isn't this examining mosques because Al-Qaeda is Muslim very broad profiling? With no actual reason to believe terrorists are present, this is very broad-net-fishing. A flouroscope gets the place raided and absolutely everything consficated. A misunderstood phrase on a wiretap and some Muslim's life is suspended for 2 years until the FBI realise there was no evidence to hide in the first place. And this happens frequently but only to Muslims.
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New If they stop at just mosques: yes.
If they elect to scan near mosques, in initial sweep - merely common sense.

(And I'd opine - if mosques Are the only places given a drive-by -?- they/we are and remain; as malevolently Stupid as Wolfowitz and the insouciant neoconmen demonstrably have been, all along. In every aspect of following-up after the Bomb Shows, which they obv. get-off on.)

New Have you read the story?
I'm not being facetious, either; there seems to be a number of respondents to this thread who I'd ask the same question to, in all seriousness.

The whole point of the story linked was that mosques and private residences have been tested, in some cases agents venturing onto private property to do so. (I leave it to your vivid imagination to speculate on the religious/ethnic characteristics of the residents of those private properties. I'd bet a pint or three on "Muslim/Arab", though)

That's what's boiling my piss.

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New Re: Have you read the story?
Yes.

It's vague about what instruments were being used for "monitoring"; BBC says "air monitoring". That would be looking for particulates that are radioactive; dust from sloppy handling? I suppose. Nothing in the article mentions (say) a scintillation counter (a photomultiplier amplifying light from a sensitive crystal). This for detecting leakage of primary radiation, from a not well-enough shielded repository - which I'd think would be used too.

So I don't get Matthew's ref to 'fluoroscope' .. as that would be a means for making X-rays visible, usually via your own X-ray source - - after passing through er, meat. It's hardly a 'particle, wavicle detector' of any low-level sensitivity. (Surely they aren't wandering about with some silly ZnS screen - in 2005, with all that free money for terrierism.)

I read no implication that any radiation has been found, so the debate remains about the ethics of even looking for radiation near mosques. Believe I've given my views on that.

(Including: if they are looking only around mosques - then they have their heads up arses, and -- I Would call that: some sort of -ism, but mostly, stupid-ism.)



Not that stupidism would be surprising in this matter; why spoil a perfect record in all areas to date by, aberrantly - doing this one right?

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New death to america, death to jews jihad jihad now time for tea
and not expect to be looked at? Since I doubt they hit every darkish looking great satan hater I suspect the drivebys were againsts residents that fit some profile, a subset of muslims, wahabbi perhaps, no different than targeting the Aryan Christian movement.
thanx,
bill
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New is it racial profiling to check for unlicenced cars
in only poor neighborhoods? when the inevitable race of poor people is usually non white? Besides Islam is a religion, not a race (whoot finally get to use that line on someone else!) Taking a swing thru the mosque parking lot, as well as storage warehouses homes, apts garages are certainly reasonable.
thanx,
bill
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New There are several Muslims at our school
and they are not Middle Eastern, they are White Wimmen. I 'spose they are married to Middle Eastern men, but to say that all Muslims are of a certain race is bogus.

Just setting the record straight from where I'm sitting.
Amy

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     Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? - (pwhysall) - (65)
         I wonder if Nazism is taught in US history classes? -NT - (warmachine)
         well if it was brits threatening to use nukes here - (boxley)
         Not really unreasonable. - (hnick) - (27)
             Re: Not really unreasonable. - (pwhysall) - (24)
                 CCTV on every corner, thats reasonable? but a driveby rad - (boxley) - (1)
                     That's not an argument. - (pwhysall)
                 I believe you're wrong,. - (hnick) - (21)
                     Well, if you have nothing to hide... - (pwhysall) - (17)
                         hee hee - (hnick) - (15)
                             To clarify - (pwhysall) - (14)
                                 Nit: All "radiation" isn't alike. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                     I consider myself hejumacated, thanks - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                         Could be. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                             Re: Could be. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                 Few cooks, many busboys - (broomberg) - (4)
                                                     I think that's a dangerous assumption... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                         Infinite supply of stupid people - (broomberg) - (1)
                                                             You mean, in Kansas? -NT - (jb4)
                                                         popoular example, palestinians - (boxley)
                                 I would bet that... - (ben_tilly)
                                 It's not "harrasment" - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                     Slippery slopes are, so, well, slippery, aren't they? -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                         We're all on that slope together - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             ICLRPD (new thread) - (pwhysall)
                         Jawohl Mein F\ufffdhrer! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                     I dunno - (jb4) - (2)
                         No, just means you have something you shouldn't have - (drewk) - (1)
                             {chortle} -NT - (Ashton)
             It really depends, in my view. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 I'd agree with that. - (hnick)
         I don't think its silly or excessive, all things considered - (Ashton) - (9)
             I agree with you, Ashton - (imqwerky)
             Understood. You present a good case. But... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 you are seriously confused - (boxley) - (2)
                     Fair enough. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Box is right... - (Simon_Jester)
                 Let's not get lost in triage of 'threats' here - - (Ashton)
             It's both, and here's why I think so. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                 If you'll note - - - (Ashton)
                 Uhh, Peter... - (jb4)
         Isn't this racial profiling? - (warmachine) - (7)
             If they stop at just mosques: yes. - (Ashton) - (4)
                 Have you read the story? - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     Re: Have you read the story? - (Ashton) - (1)
                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk)
                     death to america, death to jews jihad jihad now time for tea - (boxley)
             is it racial profiling to check for unlicenced cars - (boxley)
             There are several Muslims at our school - (imqwerky)
         Vagueries of English - try again - cultural profiling - (warmachine) - (16)
             I know how echelon works - (boxley) - (15)
                 You're conflating people and government again, Bill. Desist. - (pwhysall) - (12)
                     is the british army still in Ireland? - (boxley) - (11)
                         I don't remember Peter supporting them either. -NT - (inthane-chan)
                         The occupying settlers still want them there - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             s/England/The UK/ - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 Oops, you're right - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Hence "Unionists" -NT - (pwhysall)
                         No. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                             Oh, just garrison sojers? - (boxley) - (4)
                                 You're now officially out of your depth. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                     you man like Fatah and Al Aska Martyr Brigades? - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Practically on the payroll. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                             :-) -NT - (boxley)
                 That is not discussing cultural profiling - (warmachine) - (1)
                     well, thats how echelon works - (boxley)

Maybe you should try to go over those dark green things.
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