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New But first, they will turn off the oil to the US.
Casus belli, eh wot?
Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
New Then I get my greenhouse - a $500 HumVee. Silver lining :-)

New You sure you're not talking about a 50$ hummer?
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New 50$ hummer is something else entirly
New got a lot of oil in Alaska we arnt using
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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New Cool... have it ready by Wednesday, ok?
They can have less dependent cars before they have significant new production there.
New Big whoop. 1 year's supply.
And it would be extracted over a 20 year period, so it only supplies 5% of our needs each year.

This is not the level of resource that will support us becoming far more wasteful than we are today.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Some more numbers.
[link|http://www.doi.gov/news/030312.htm|10.4 B barrels "technically recoverable", 1.4 Mbbl/day estimated production]. That would give 20.3 years at 1.4 Mbbl/day (real production rates will almost certainly fall after a peak).

The [link|http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/petroleu.html#IntlConsumption|EIA] has an XLS file that says the US consumption in June 2005 was 21.2 Mbbl/day, and [link|http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/petroleu.html#IntlConsumption|EIA] has an XLS file that says that the US production in June 2005 was 5.4 Mbbl/day.

Similarly, the [link|http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/petroleu.html#IntlConsumption|EIA] says that US Net Imports were 12.8 Mbbl/day in June 2005.

So if you accept all of the above, then ANWAR could decrease net oil imports by 1.4/12.8 = 10.9% - a not-insignificant amount. But, by the time ANWAR oil was on the market, it's probably safe to assume that US net imports would be larger than 12.8 Mbbl/day, giving ANWAR a smaller piece of the pie. But it may also be the case that pressure on oil markets will be larger by that time (due to increased imports by China and India) so that any increase in production will help reduce pressure on the market.

ANWAR clearly isn't a panacea, and won't be a big part of the solution to the oil import problem we have. It would help some, but, e.g., improving efficiency in transportation would help much more.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Something you gotta realise
The tar sands are coming on line. Those are SA sized reserves, and they're right next door in a friendly country.

We'll expect to be paid for the oil, but we're not going to expect blood for it.

I'd leave ANWR alone; it's a drop in the bucket next to the tar sands, and there aren't the same kinds of concerns; there's not a lot of wildlife there as grass doesn't grow too well in bitumen-soaked sand.
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New we know why you want to leave anwr alone
you're sucking it dry from your side of the line :-) forgot those delta drilling plans?
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New 's not that much



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
     Shiites look to control new Iraqi government - (JayMehaffey) - (26)
         Opps -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
             Teh spellung errar! -NT - (inthane-chan)
         What if the US didn't invade? - (warmachine) - (23)
             Probably was inevitable. - (inthane-chan) - (19)
                 So, the US solved no problem, gets blamed for all others. -NT - (warmachine) - (17)
                     one more small step to solve the Saudi Arabian problem -NT - (boxley) - (16)
                         How? Getting rid of the evil fanatic Wahabbite tyrants... - (CRConrad) - (15)
                             yep, absolutely - (boxley) - (14)
                                 But first, they will turn off the oil to the US. - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                                     Then I get my greenhouse - a $500 HumVee. Silver lining :-) -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                                         You sure you're not talking about a 50$ hummer? -NT - (jake123) - (1)
                                             50$ hummer is something else entirly -NT - (JayMehaffey)
                                     got a lot of oil in Alaska we arnt using -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                                         Cool... have it ready by Wednesday, ok? - (hnick)
                                         Big whoop. 1 year's supply. - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                             Some more numbers. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                 Something you gotta realise - (jake123) - (1)
                                                     we know why you want to leave anwr alone - (boxley)
                                         's not that much -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                 Kewl! - (jb4) - (2)
                                     like I always said, how many shiites were on the 911 planes? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         How many Afghanis and Iraqis were? - (mmoffitt)
                 Hard to say - (JayMehaffey)
             The existing regime would have stayed in power - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 Even after Saddam died of old age? -NT - (warmachine) - (1)
                     Possibly not but... - (ben_tilly)

What... is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?
60 ms