hoping eternal is ignoring reality.

Also, how do you define civil war? And how does it differ from Saddam's slaughters of Kurds and Shia Arabs? Or the so-called insurgency, for that matter? If you take Saddam's Iraq seriously as a nation, then it was a nation in a constant state of civil war all the time he was in power.


Yep, very good. You're learning.

The only difference is now his side is out of power and being slowly wiped out.


Yep, and now we see what you stand for - genocide.

(And if you remember correctly - I called you on it almost 2 years ago).

BTW: for the record, you can't free ANYONE. They free themselves. Period.

Do I support the idea of civil war in Iraq? No, I don't want to see it happen. I would have rather seen 3 different states formed (Kurdish, Sunni, etc.) Does the Constitution stand a chance at unifying Iraq? Absolutely. (But there's going to be a LOT of blood along the way)

Am I crazy enough to suggest our troops need to be standing at ground zero while Iraq is unified?

Well, one of us is.