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10/26/05 3:33:00 AM

it's the same stuff

36"Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" 37Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
[link|http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022:34-46;&version=31;|Matthew 22:35-40]

He also said:

19You know the commandments: 'Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.'"
[link|http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%2010;&version=31;|Mark 10:19]

The first quote is just a higher abstraction of the second. The 10 commandments are specific rules of a general principle.

Amy supplies this quote:

Christ leaves off his inventory: \ufffdYou shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make yourself an idol. You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God. Remember the Sabbath Day, and keep it holy.\ufffd
It turns out that the four Commandments Jesus deletes are the ones concurring formal religious practice. The Six Commandments that Jesus endorses are the ones concerning morality, love, and good character.

I have a different take on this. The four he didn't mention relate to loving God. The six he named relate to "loving your neighbour". Yet he said the most important commandment is to love God. The second is to love your neighbour. So why did he name those six, instead of the other four? Good question. I don't know.

The main thing I see in this is that Jesus valued relationships over rules. For instance, he healed those in need even if it was on the Sabbath, much to the consternation of those who held rules in high regard. [link|http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2012;&version=31;|Matthew 12]

So, if you heed the two rules, "love God" and "love your neighbour", you can forget the other rules 'cause you won't need them. Do unto others etc...

Have fun,
Carl Forde

What do you call a liberal Christian? - (ChrisR) - (62) - Oct. 10, 2005, 03:09:50 PM EDT

That 'Joan of Arc' bit had to be . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 10, 2005, 03:52:53 PM EDT

Both Church and State have the same dilemma - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 10, 2005, 05:47:06 PM EDT

Illuminating. - (static) - (56) - Oct. 10, 2005, 11:30:07 PM EDT

Well, there's glory for you. - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Oct. 11, 2005, 01:23:31 AM EDT

My favorite is still . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 11, 2005, 02:37:19 AM EDT

Isn't Occident what happens when you don't plan sufficiently -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2005, 05:05:03 PM EDT

..only if your oc'cent is on the wrong syl-la'-ble -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 13, 2005, 07:54:18 PM EDT

But consider this... - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Oct. 12, 2005, 12:53:55 AM EDT

This is true. - (static) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2005, 12:16:15 AM EDT

Be careful what you wish for. :-) Consider China in 20 yrs. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 12:33:40 AM EDT

Interesting point. - (static) - Oct. 12, 2005, 12:35:50 AM EDT

their image is different from mine also - (boxley) - (47) - Oct. 11, 2005, 06:23:46 PM EDT

I'm NOT just unhappy with the TV preachers - (ben_tilly) - (46) - Oct. 11, 2005, 06:42:30 PM EDT

I wipe my ass with your statistics - (boxley) - (42) - Oct. 11, 2005, 07:02:06 PM EDT

No no no, you've got it all wrong - (jake123) - Oct. 11, 2005, 07:35:14 PM EDT

The "no true Scotsman" fallacy, in a new guise! - (ben_tilly) - (40) - Oct. 11, 2005, 07:53:08 PM EDT

show me comparison stats - (bepatient) - (16) - Oct. 11, 2005, 09:05:20 PM EDT

You can google for them yourself - (ben_tilly) - (15) - Oct. 11, 2005, 09:26:04 PM EDT

"Christian" - (bepatient) - (14) - Oct. 12, 2005, 08:08:49 AM EDT

No true Scotsman again? - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Oct. 12, 2005, 01:10:58 PM EDT

Don't forget the "not by deeds" thing - (drewk) - (6) - Oct. 12, 2005, 01:38:06 PM EDT

Bah! I googled anyway. :-P - (imqwerky) - Oct. 12, 2005, 01:48:54 PM EDT

I didn't - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:05:20 PM EDT

No, it goes to why they do what they do - (drewk) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:19:16 PM EDT

Point. "Jesus died for your sins, make it worth his while!" -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:20:37 PM EDT

I think it's in Ephesians. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:58:46 PM EDT

But it's a common word - - (Ashton) - Oct. 12, 2005, 06:41:56 PM EDT

I am playing my little violin for you - (boxley) - (4) - Oct. 12, 2005, 02:34:27 PM EDT

-3 for even hinting about . . . a Statistical 'Proof' of - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 03:48:40 PM EDT

I didnt bring statistics in here, look ..I.. that way :-) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 12, 2005, 04:00:58 PM EDT

Read, in context, please - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:11:00 PM EDT

Fair Dinkum - (boxley) - Oct. 12, 2005, 06:59:16 PM EDT

I believe your research. - (static) - Oct. 12, 2005, 08:40:49 PM EDT

still wiping ass with your stats - (boxley) - (22) - Oct. 11, 2005, 10:48:49 PM EDT

Correction for you - (ben_tilly) - (21) - Oct. 11, 2005, 11:13:05 PM EDT

There are only two precepts by which a Christian should live - (imqwerky) - (19) - Oct. 11, 2005, 11:55:55 PM EDT

Timelier every day. - (Ashton) - Oct. 22, 2005, 09:46:15 PM EDT

love except - (boxley) - Oct. 23, 2005, 12:38:20 AM EDT

s/two/ten/ -NT - (pwhysall) - (16) - Oct. 23, 2005, 01:29:40 AM EDT

that's so old testament - (cforde) - (15) - Oct. 24, 2005, 02:47:19 AM EDT

That depends on how attractive your neighbour's wife is ;-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 24, 2005, 04:08:41 AM EDT

Where'd he do that? - (pwhysall) - (12) - Oct. 24, 2005, 06:08:04 AM EDT

that's the fundamental difference between... - (cforde) - (11) - Oct. 25, 2005, 02:35:05 AM EDT

Ar, but where does he rescind the Ten Commandments? - (pwhysall) - (10) - Oct. 25, 2005, 04:38:48 AM EDT

If ya wanna get picky... - (imqwerky) - (8) - Oct. 25, 2005, 09:10:08 PM EDT

wrong, per his own words - (boxley) - (7) - Oct. 25, 2005, 09:29:10 PM EDT

Any chance you could break that down - (Silverlock) - (6) - Oct. 25, 2005, 09:48:21 PM EDT

Ummm - that was 100% readable. -NT - (imric) - Oct. 25, 2005, 09:58:07 PM EDT

Actually, clear enough. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Oct. 25, 2005, 10:09:02 PM EDT

no Jesus was a hetro with a toe fetish - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2005, 10:21:14 PM EDT

Thought that's what you meant. - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 25, 2005, 10:57:53 PM EDT

'Toe fetish' my ass - (Ashton) - Oct. 25, 2005, 11:09:40 PM EDT

sure - (boxley) - Oct. 25, 2005, 10:12:12 PM EDT

it's the same stuff - (cforde) - Oct. 26, 2005, 03:33:00 AM EDT

or so Paul claimed, Jesus said he wouldnt change the law -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 24, 2005, 10:37:29 AM EDT

I find much more reasonable the Ancient Egyptian . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 12, 2005, 12:03:25 AM EDT

The Gospel of Luke...if the shoe fits... - (imqwerky) - (2) - Oct. 12, 2005, 06:22:08 PM EDT

you are describing neocons :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 12, 2005, 07:01:37 PM EDT

Bingo! -NT - (imqwerky) - Oct. 12, 2005, 07:11:59 PM EDT

An oxymoron. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 11, 2005, 11:12:49 AM EDT

Answer: - (imqwerky) - (1) - Oct. 11, 2005, 09:49:05 PM EDT

OK - you pass - (Ashton) - Oct. 12, 2005, 05:48:56 AM EDT

Fight me!
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