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New wrong, per his own words
mat 5/17-18
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
did heaven and earth pass? Only if you read english like mickey reads the second ammendment. Was the law fufilled? Only until reconciliation of man and G_d and from the looks of shit around here that hasnt happened either.

Oh wait a minute Along came Paul (sung to the tune of along came Jones) saying it all doesnt matter because you are gentiles anyway or something like that.

Jesus was an observant Jew right until they put him in a grave and for about 60 years later, then everyone was told that jesus and all the people who knew him personally were confused and to follow some homosexual who hated women. Viola Christianity was born.
thanx
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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New Any chance you could break that down
In "writing" boxlish? I would ever so much like to know what the hell you just said. I know you have two modes. One "writing" and one "speaking" Please use the "writing" one if you respond to this post. Ok?
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George W. Bush and his PNAC handlers sent the US into Iraq with lies. I find myself rethinking my opposition to the death penalty.

--Donald Dean Richards Jr.
New Ummm - that was 100% readable.
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New Actually, clear enough.
I haven't read the context of the passage quoted for nearly half a century so I'm not going to interpret its validity, but box says Jesus was an observant Jew and said no particle of the law was voided until all prophecy was fulfilled.

He then argues it hasn't been fulfilled.

He then proposes that Paul said the law didn't matter because Christians aren't Jews.

Only the last sentence is a little unclear as I can't tell for sure if he means the homosexual who hated women to be Jesus reinterpreted or some other leader of the early church.

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New no Jesus was a hetro with a toe fetish
Paul was apparently an important rabbi, except he wasnt married, an unheard of state for an important rabbi. Kind of like a married catholic priest would raise a few eyebrows today. He then insisted that men and women be kept separate unless procreating. Never felt the urge to procreate himself. Spent a lot of time in jail and travelled with a single male companion usually younger. All of current christian doctrine can be traced to him based on his firing of the people who actually knew jesus and changing all the rules that jesus followed.
thanx,
bill



"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Thought that's what you meant.
Yes, Christianity went through major restructuring in less than 100 years from the date for Jesus' death. First major editing of scripture and adoption of the Old Testament to justify an authoritarian church, then adapting the Pagan festivals to make conversions easier, and reconstituting favorite local gods and godesses as saints, then vicious sectarian warfare and wholesale murder among Christian communities in the name of Jesus and a loving God.

If you love sausage and Christianity, don't see either one made. Probably the Jahova's Witnesses are as close as you'll get to the real thing in this day and age.
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New 'Toe fetish' my ass
Is it possible that, in all your travels with the Foreign Legion Irregulars [with/beer+broads] you haven't come across ~ (transliterated) 'padmaskar' - and what that foot touching is all about?

(And what that IS about - is yet another indication of what JC was up-to in the unvideotaped years. Or at least: the now novelized character we Call that name, whose itinerary was not covered for a long stretch, in the narratives.)

As if very many.. of those billions of scholarly words, occupying the clerical caste for 20 centuries - Were more than massive gossip / rewrite sessions. But WTF - the credulous will buy Anything intoned often enough, that relieves of the burden of actual personal thought.

New sure
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wrong, per Jesus's own words according to the king james bible
mat 5/17-18

Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."


Has Heaven and Earth Passed?

(OB poke at mmoffet and his ridiculous theories about the second ammendment of the constitution, skip) Only if you read english like mickey reads the second ammendment.end skip{)

Was the law fufilled?

the law can be fufilled Only until reconciliation of mankind and G_d and from the looks of shit around here that hasnt happened either.(the world is a shithole, no worldwide unanimous theocracy in place, emphasis on the unanimous.

Oh wait a minute Along came Paul (sung to the tune of along came Jones) saying it all doesnt matter because you are gentiles anyway or something like that. (Paul the apostle, an early form of neocon)

THE MOST IMPORTANT BIT ON Jesus was an observant Jew right until they put him in a grave and for about 60 years later, then everyone was told that jesus and all the people who knew him personally were confused and to follow some homosexual who hated women.THE MOST IMPORTANT BIT OFF

Viola Christianity was born.

I do Substitute Pastoring for only half of the first goround of the collection plates, and lunch.
thanx,
bill

thanx
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
     What do you call a liberal Christian? - (ChrisR) - (62)
         That 'Joan of Arc' bit had to be . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         Both Church and State have the same dilemma - (ben_tilly)
         Illuminating. - (static) - (56)
             Well, there's glory for you. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                 My favorite is still . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                     Isn't Occident what happens when you don't plan sufficiently -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                         ..only if your oc'cent is on the wrong syl-la'-ble -NT - (Ashton)
             But consider this... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                 This is true. - (static) - (2)
                     Be careful what you wish for. :-) Consider China in 20 yrs. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Interesting point. - (static)
             their image is different from mine also - (boxley) - (47)
                 I'm NOT just unhappy with the TV preachers - (ben_tilly) - (46)
                     I wipe my ass with your statistics - (boxley) - (42)
                         No no no, you've got it all wrong - (jake123)
                         The "no true Scotsman" fallacy, in a new guise! - (ben_tilly) - (40)
                             show me comparison stats - (bepatient) - (16)
                                 You can google for them yourself - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                     "Christian" - (bepatient) - (14)
                                         No true Scotsman again? - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                             Don't forget the "not by deeds" thing - (drewk) - (6)
                                                 Bah! I googled anyway. :-P - (imqwerky)
                                                 I didn't - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                     No, it goes to why they do what they do - (drewk) - (1)
                                                         Point. "Jesus died for your sins, make it worth his while!" -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                 I think it's in Ephesians. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     But it's a common word - - (Ashton)
                                             I am playing my little violin for you - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 -3 for even hinting about . . . a Statistical 'Proof' of - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                     I didnt bring statistics in here, look ..I.. that way :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                 Read, in context, please - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                     Fair Dinkum - (boxley)
                                             I believe your research. - (static)
                             still wiping ass with your stats - (boxley) - (22)
                                 Correction for you - (ben_tilly) - (21)
                                     There are only two precepts by which a Christian should live - (imqwerky) - (19)
                                         Timelier every day. - (Ashton)
                                         love except - (boxley)
                                         s/two/ten/ -NT - (pwhysall) - (16)
                                             that's so old testament - (cforde) - (15)
                                                 That depends on how attractive your neighbour's wife is ;-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Where'd he do that? - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                                     that's the fundamental difference between... - (cforde) - (11)
                                                         Ar, but where does he rescind the Ten Commandments? - (pwhysall) - (10)
                                                             If ya wanna get picky... - (imqwerky) - (8)
                                                                 wrong, per his own words - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                     Any chance you could break that down - (Silverlock) - (6)
                                                                         Ummm - that was 100% readable. -NT - (imric)
                                                                         Actually, clear enough. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                                                             no Jesus was a hetro with a toe fetish - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                 Thought that's what you meant. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                 'Toe fetish' my ass - (Ashton)
                                                                         sure - (boxley)
                                                             it's the same stuff - (cforde)
                                                 or so Paul claimed, Jesus said he wouldnt change the law -NT - (boxley)
                                     I find much more reasonable the Ancient Egyptian . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     The Gospel of Luke...if the shoe fits... - (imqwerky) - (2)
                         you are describing neocons :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                             Bingo! -NT - (imqwerky)
         An oxymoron. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         Answer: - (imqwerky) - (1)
             OK - you pass - (Ashton)

Those chicken wings are really spicy! Don't eat those!
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