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New Try really hard..
to see that, while the relationship If-Any, as in -???- twixt some exact birth moment and, your Proclivities? need not be Objectively True (as-if we'd recognize an Objective Truth if it bit us on an arse with 3-cheeks.)

Nor (whatever the fate of the above origins, in intellectual-space) - can anyone take very seriously the 'predictions' of future events - as sells all those Tabloids and, if you're Nancy Reagan.. may guide your hubby's decisions about tax breaks as she misses evaluating? the character of certain shady anti-Constitutional Marines.

Noooo - try very hard only to note: that there is very much observational data across the centuries as tends to "group people" / as with Cocker Spaniels re other breeds, according to behavioral frequencies. That the above may have been the postulate is incidental: observations are 'data'. Then we evaluate: how often are these characterizations right-on as opposed to, er No-Way!

(Think about Freud's cowardice in modifying his original, tabulated observations of the %sexual-abuse of girls. Then, on nearly being voted-out of the local Psych Ruling Junta, for daring to promulgate his 'stats': his 'theory' morphed into: "an unnatural [Hah] lusting-after Daddy", etc. Coward.) Then there are the Doctors - laughing at the idea of washing hands; for the Longest time after it was suggested Why / killing lots of pregnant women, etc. But I digress to orthodox 'scientific methods'.

Stripped of the problem of vetting of algorithmic origins? and (all the silly stuff) - I'd aver that 20th century psych is no more agile/accurate in *its* generalizations - depending on which of 100 of those Schools you favor - than is Astrology, even though there remain as many %charlatan 'astrologers' as MDs, politicos, priests and scholars.

ie the 'Something' that there appears to be 'To It' resides only in the method's ability to 'predict' certain behaviours [not events!] - if. it. does. do. that. Alas, as regards every one of (the few) persons each one of us has actually met: are these a fair stat sample of millions, or not? Ergo -

*I Predict*

-- there will never arise The One True Blog which settles definitively, the Yes/No decision on this question of 'accuracy'/ utility via alleged stats yet collected (and by whom?).

(It would be distinctly unFashionable to request a Grant, in '05 for such research, I aver. As in most eras.)
We really don't *know* Shit about the human psyche, now do we? (Even with Astrology's assistance ;-) Remember Freud: that's the stuff of our putative 'knowledge'.


Meanwhile, bon appetit, you Scorpio-or-something ~ with Nintendo in retrograde (?)
:-\ufffd

New Peter is a Librul, erm that is a Libra!
I predict he celebrates his birthdays between September 23 and October 22.
Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
New Ah, he a perv that steals
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

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New *nnngh*
OK, I tried.

It's still bollocks.



Peter
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New Don't forget to wear a crystal necklace, while you're at it.
New Azatoth forgives
first. Then eats.

     Stress Time Bomb - (Nightowl) - (25)
         Bravo! - (Ashton)
         Ah, fall the time of year that all scorpio's look to destroy - (boxley) - (16)
             Where's Bob the Angry Flower...? - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 bobs right next to neil -NT - (boxley)
             Yup, astrology's just soo much superstition.. - (Ashton) - (10)
                 When does that happen, then? - (pwhysall) - (9)
                     one in 12*2/4 -NT - (boxley) - (8)
                         One in six? - (pwhysall) - (7)
                             sure, next time you on on the M1 in heavy traffic - (boxley)
                             Try really hard.. - (Ashton) - (5)
                                 Peter is a Librul, erm that is a Libra! - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                     Ah, he a perv that steals -NT - (boxley)
                                 *nnngh* - (pwhysall)
                                 Don't forget to wear a crystal necklace, while you're at it. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     Azatoth forgives - (Ashton)
             Well, that explains something. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                 yup and I wonder how Beep's fall is coming along - (boxley) - (1)
                     Just dandy thanks. - (bepatient)
         Bail - (broomberg)
         I have no mouth... - (cforde) - (3)
             Re: I have no mouth... - (Nightowl)
             I'm boycotting Harlan Ellison - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 I used to have that feeling about George Lucas - (Nightowl)
         Beautiful and eloquent writing aside - (bionerd) - (1)
             I hear you, honest (new thread) - (Nightowl)

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