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I was explicitly saying that that part was my personal theory. I cannot substantiate it, and I believe that it only applies for a fraction of religious people. A statistically significant fraction, perhaps, but still only a fraction.

As I think I made clear, I believe this based on anecdotal evidence only.

If you can find anywhere where I indicated that all Christians are like that, point it out and I'll correct it. If you deny that any Christians are like that, I'll know that you are either willfully ignorant or are lying. If you disagree that enough are like that to affect divorce statistics, I'll have to concede that I lack the evidence to demonstrate it either way.

Is that clear now?

Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Fair Dinkum
Yes they are christians like you portrayed, one assistant pastor who was also a Realestate agent took my mother not once but 3 times for 150k or so.

In the case we are both thinking about I would say rigid thinking is more to blame than christianity because the rigidity part was applied to other than the spiritual side of life.

Divorce statistics will show
[link|http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm|http://www.religious....org/chr_dira.htm] tend to indicate the more conservative you are in politics the more likely to get divorced if you are christian. Even outside of religion simply compare conservative law makers divorce rate with Liberals. Clintons vs the Gingrichs.

This does not appear to be a religious issue as much as if
"you werer an asshole before you got saved, you are still am asshole, amen"

Variation in divorce rates among Christian faith groups:
Denomination (in order of decreasing divorce rate) \t% who have been divorced
Non-denominational (small groups; independents) \t34%
Baptists \t29%
Mainline Protestants \t25%
Mormons \t24%
Catholics \t21%
Lutherans \t21%

Barna's results verified findings of earlier polls: that conservative Protestant Christians, on average, have the highest divorce rate, while mainline Christians have a much lower rate. They found some new information as well: that atheists and agnostics have the lowest divorce rate of all. George Barna commented that the results raise "questions regarding the effectiveness of how churches minister to families." The data challenge "the idea that churches provide truly practical and life-changing support for marriage."
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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     What do you call a liberal Christian? - (ChrisR) - (62)
         That 'Joan of Arc' bit had to be . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         Both Church and State have the same dilemma - (ben_tilly)
         Illuminating. - (static) - (56)
             Well, there's glory for you. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                 My favorite is still . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                     Isn't Occident what happens when you don't plan sufficiently -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                         ..only if your oc'cent is on the wrong syl-la'-ble -NT - (Ashton)
             But consider this... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                 This is true. - (static) - (2)
                     Be careful what you wish for. :-) Consider China in 20 yrs. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         Interesting point. - (static)
             their image is different from mine also - (boxley) - (47)
                 I'm NOT just unhappy with the TV preachers - (ben_tilly) - (46)
                     I wipe my ass with your statistics - (boxley) - (42)
                         No no no, you've got it all wrong - (jake123)
                         The "no true Scotsman" fallacy, in a new guise! - (ben_tilly) - (40)
                             show me comparison stats - (bepatient) - (16)
                                 You can google for them yourself - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                     "Christian" - (bepatient) - (14)
                                         No true Scotsman again? - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                             Don't forget the "not by deeds" thing - (drewk) - (6)
                                                 Bah! I googled anyway. :-P - (imqwerky)
                                                 I didn't - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                     No, it goes to why they do what they do - (drewk) - (1)
                                                         Point. "Jesus died for your sins, make it worth his while!" -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                 I think it's in Ephesians. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     But it's a common word - - (Ashton)
                                             I am playing my little violin for you - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 -3 for even hinting about . . . a Statistical 'Proof' of - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                     I didnt bring statistics in here, look ..I.. that way :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                                 Read, in context, please - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                     Fair Dinkum - (boxley)
                                             I believe your research. - (static)
                             still wiping ass with your stats - (boxley) - (22)
                                 Correction for you - (ben_tilly) - (21)
                                     There are only two precepts by which a Christian should live - (imqwerky) - (19)
                                         Timelier every day. - (Ashton)
                                         love except - (boxley)
                                         s/two/ten/ -NT - (pwhysall) - (16)
                                             that's so old testament - (cforde) - (15)
                                                 That depends on how attractive your neighbour's wife is ;-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Where'd he do that? - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                                     that's the fundamental difference between... - (cforde) - (11)
                                                         Ar, but where does he rescind the Ten Commandments? - (pwhysall) - (10)
                                                             If ya wanna get picky... - (imqwerky) - (8)
                                                                 wrong, per his own words - (boxley) - (7)
                                                                     Any chance you could break that down - (Silverlock) - (6)
                                                                         Ummm - that was 100% readable. -NT - (imric)
                                                                         Actually, clear enough. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                                                             no Jesus was a hetro with a toe fetish - (boxley) - (2)
                                                                                 Thought that's what you meant. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                 'Toe fetish' my ass - (Ashton)
                                                                         sure - (boxley)
                                                             it's the same stuff - (cforde)
                                                 or so Paul claimed, Jesus said he wouldnt change the law -NT - (boxley)
                                     I find much more reasonable the Ancient Egyptian . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     The Gospel of Luke...if the shoe fits... - (imqwerky) - (2)
                         you are describing neocons :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                             Bingo! -NT - (imqwerky)
         An oxymoron. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         Answer: - (imqwerky) - (1)
             OK - you pass - (Ashton)

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