Bill Bennett demostrates he is a racist - (JayMehaffey) - (101) - Sept. 29, 2005, 01:12:39 PM EDT
         So are you saying poorosity and blackness *don't* correlate? - (CRConrad) - (65) - Sept. 29, 2005, 02:07:50 PM EDT
             Bill Bennett: - (jb4) - (64) - Sept. 29, 2005, 05:52:57 PM EDT
                 Make no mistake yourself - (ben_tilly) - (63) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:00:17 PM EDT
                     Mandatory enforced abortions will lead to lower crime rates? -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:11:30 PM EDT
                     Uh, Ben...Read me in my posts, dude! - (jb4) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:20:40 PM EDT
                         You claim the statement is racist. I claim it is factual. - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2005, 08:37:40 PM EDT
                             C'mon Ben...you know me better 'n that! - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:47:02 AM EDT
                                 Thank you for the clarification. - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 30, 2005, 12:04:00 PM EDT
                         want to explain why stating a fact makes you racist? -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:24:22 AM EDT
                             Fact? What fact? - (jb4) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:49:14 AM EDT
                                 Of course crime rate would go down - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2005, 10:05:48 AM EDT
                                     What do you mean by rate? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:31:38 AM EDT
                                         youts cause crime,removing youts lessens crime -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:59:29 PM EDT
                                             True! - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:02:06 PM EDT
                                             Now we're Getting somewhere! - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:34:14 PM EDT
                     Other correct statement - legalizing drugs will act similar - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:55:54 PM EDT
                     Can we see even a hand-waving proof of that? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (49) - Sept. 30, 2005, 10:06:28 AM EDT
                         I didn't think so. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:40:25 AM EDT
                             Gimme time to type!!! - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2005, 12:06:51 PM EDT
                                 Okay. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:02:22 PM EDT
                                     Look at timestamps!!! - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:00:42 PM EDT
                                         Touchy, aren't ya? - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:10:17 PM EDT
                         Sure - (ben_tilly) - (43) - Sept. 30, 2005, 12:02:52 PM EDT
                             I dunno - (pwhysall) - (19) - Sept. 30, 2005, 12:53:35 PM EDT
                                 That one is admittedly harder to prove - (ben_tilly) - (18) - Sept. 30, 2005, 01:14:08 PM EDT
                                     Wouldn't last - (drewk) - (17) - Sept. 30, 2005, 01:39:18 PM EDT
                                         Then show me Canada's permanent underclass -NT - (ben_tilly) - (16) - Sept. 30, 2005, 03:51:19 PM EDT
                                             I don't know Canadian society that well - (drewk) - (13) - Sept. 30, 2005, 03:54:42 PM EDT
                                                 They don't but... - (ben_tilly) - (12) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:05:37 PM EDT
                                                     I'm not talking about capitalism, but about human nature - (drewk) - (11) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:21:08 PM EDT
                                                         Confirmed! 'He who is not One Up is One Down' - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 05:17:51 PM EDT
                                                         Slavery also used to be defended as inevitable... - (ben_tilly) - (9) - Sept. 30, 2005, 06:30:49 PM EDT
                                                             Where did you see me defending it? - (drewk) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:25:07 PM EDT
                                                                 "defended" might be the wrong word - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2005, 10:01:55 PM EDT
                                                                     I may have noticed another aspect - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:05:15 PM EDT
                                                                     Lots of disagreements - (drewk) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:08:59 PM EDT
                                                                         On that last bit... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:33:40 PM EDT
                                                                             I don't know about that - (drewk) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2005, 12:51:31 AM EDT
                                                                                 You might have a point - see "stranger anxiety" -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 1, 2005, 12:02:24 PM EDT
                                                                             ethiopian comment, they are racially distinct - (boxley) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:47:19 AM EDT
                                                                         We do have several disagreements - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 1, 2005, 12:18:21 PM EDT
                                             go to the nearest reservation.... -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:44:12 AM EDT
                                                 Granted, but in numbers and societal impact... - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 1, 2005, 12:00:12 PM EDT
                             Wait a minute... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 01:31:19 PM EDT
                                 Right, he disproved the argument they didn't make - (drewk) - Sept. 30, 2005, 01:41:12 PM EDT
                             Man, you took me literally. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:09:34 PM EDT
                                 "Forever to have nots?" - (imric) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:21:05 PM EDT
                                     Let me be a little more clear. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 30, 2005, 03:52:23 PM EDT
                                         I don't see it - (imric) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:17:41 PM EDT
                                             If it doesn't have to be that way, can you ... - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:05:37 PM EDT
                                                 Sure - (drewk) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:11:28 PM EDT
                                                 Nope! - (imric) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:12:51 PM EDT
                                         entrenched underclasses are good for business - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:50:58 AM EDT
                                             Henry Ford would argue with you. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:57:14 AM EDT
                                 That's not *Ben's* reasoning - (drewk) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:29:28 PM EDT
                                     You should read him in his posts. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 03:49:39 PM EDT
                                         Because it is - (drewk) - Sept. 30, 2005, 05:13:10 PM EDT
                                 Speaking of handwaving... - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2005, 03:58:55 PM EDT
                                     What about this... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2005, 04:29:39 PM EDT
                                         What does "permanent" mean to you? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2005, 06:19:00 PM EDT
                                             Briefly... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 07:32:01 PM EDT
                                                 Then we differ on what permanently means - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 30, 2005, 08:16:30 PM EDT
                                     I would then argue for frenco canadians to hold the place - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:56:43 AM EDT
                                         Not comparable - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2005, 11:58:05 AM EDT
                                             well ya were a west coaster, lets have jake weigh in on this - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2005, 06:43:13 PM EDT
                                                 Things are very different now - (jake123) - Oct. 3, 2005, 03:50:18 PM EDT
         Jessie Jackson is a racist too. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:02:09 PM EDT
             Other cool PC issue - (drewk) - (3) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:12:16 PM EDT
                 Where do you suppose the people in the West Indies came from -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:25:44 PM EDT
                     China. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:34:38 PM EDT
                 It's not Africa that's the problem . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:31:38 PM EDT
             Well, yes - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2005, 03:47:43 PM EDT
                 The question a racist always has to ask, - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 04:13:22 PM EDT
                     They called them indefinitely indentured servants. -NT - (folkert) - Sept. 29, 2005, 04:34:26 PM EDT
         Wrong. Proves hes a statistician - (bepatient) - (20) - Sept. 29, 2005, 04:41:23 PM EDT
             Are all statisticians racist, then? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 29, 2005, 04:54:54 PM EDT
             A poor one though. - (Another Scott) - (13) - Sept. 29, 2005, 05:03:11 PM EDT
                 You're right, but for the wrong reason - (drewk) - (12) - Sept. 29, 2005, 05:10:58 PM EDT
                     Superbly stated reason why - - (Ashton) - Sept. 29, 2005, 05:50:47 PM EDT
                     A slightly different view. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:10:03 PM EDT
                         Both your views are 'right' IMO - (Ashton) - Sept. 29, 2005, 06:58:00 PM EDT
                         I think you're misunderstanding his point - (drewk) - (8) - Sept. 29, 2005, 07:45:25 PM EDT
                             Bingo - (bepatient) - (7) - Oct. 1, 2005, 04:37:39 AM EDT
                                 Yes, but be-Not a smug Boolean-head - I know it's Hard, here - (Ashton) - (6) - Oct. 1, 2005, 07:50:30 PM EDT
                                     From you, that's ironic - (drewk) - (4) - Oct. 1, 2005, 07:58:39 PM EDT
                                         Et tu captain clarity: Not. At. All. - (Ashton) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2005, 08:39:06 PM EDT
                                             If by "slogan word" you meant "racism" ... he didn't say it - (drewk) - (2) - Oct. 2, 2005, 07:57:51 AM EDT
                                                 [Raises hand] - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2005, 11:39:00 AM EDT
                                                     Oohhh.. spinning the def'n of spin! - (Ashton) - Oct. 2, 2005, 04:31:19 PM EDT
                                     Did you hear the entire thread of his show? - (boxley) - Oct. 2, 2005, 11:22:18 AM EDT
             I would suspect both - (JayMehaffey) - (4) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:18:00 PM EDT
                 No, he is not "literally" saying what you claim he is - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Sept. 29, 2005, 10:47:15 PM EDT
                     No argument with your qualified restatement, except - - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:04:17 PM EDT
                         You don't understand. Gambling is a Virtue. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 29, 2005, 11:08:37 PM EDT
                             I know.. Guido 'told' me. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 05:20:01 PM EDT
         Jesse weighs in on Bennett (new thread) - (drewk) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:27:21 PM EDT
         This thread reminds me of a classic PG essay (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 30, 2005, 11:12:53 PM EDT
         Just an idiot not a racist - (andread) - (3) - Oct. 1, 2005, 08:56:56 AM EDT
             :-) - (Another Scott) - (2) - Oct. 1, 2005, 09:55:53 AM EDT
                 Spin? - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 1, 2005, 11:42:42 AM EDT
                     Considering the original topic seemed to be Social Security - (Another Scott) - Oct. 1, 2005, 11:58:25 AM EDT