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New On that last bit...
Remember that Star Trek episode, [link|http://www.starfleetlibrary.com/tos/tos3/let_that_be_your_last_battlefield.htm|Let that be your last battlefield]? The one with Bele and Lokai?

Well, being able to distinguish differences between ethnic groups is something that we don't seem to be very good at. (At least I'm not.) It's sort of funny because the human brain is so very good at recognizing faces...

We have a CNA who's worked for us for nearly a couple of years. She's originally from Ethiopia. Let's call her Missy. For a while we had some additional temporary aids helping out. They were generally originally from Mali or Ghana. Their skills varied. Once Missy was telling us about some difficulty she had with one of the other aids and said under her breath, "Oh, those Africans!" :-/

I think you're right that most Americans (and most people?) would lump broadly similar looking strangers together in their minds. I think all of this helps to demonstrate the truism that discrimination must be taught. That is, kids quickly develop the concepts of Me, Family, and Others. Others gets modified over time (friends, acquaintences, enemies, etc.) and I think it's these modifications that leads to us having knee-jerk reactions to people of certain groups. There's nothing innate about us that makes us fearful of people who look "different" - it's a cultural thing.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I don't know about that
I suspect the suspicion of "other" is instinctive. It's just who gets classified as "other" that's taught.
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New You might have a point - see "stranger anxiety"
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New ethiopian comment, they are racially distinct
she was discussing their racial background not geographic :-)
thanx,
bill
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     Bill Bennett demostrates he is a racist - (JayMehaffey) - (101)
         So are you saying poorosity and blackness *don't* correlate? - (CRConrad) - (65)
             Bill Bennett: - (jb4) - (64)
                 Make no mistake yourself - (ben_tilly) - (63)
                     Mandatory enforced abortions will lead to lower crime rates? -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Uh, Ben...Read me in my posts, dude! - (jb4) - (10)
                         You claim the statement is racist. I claim it is factual. - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             C'mon Ben...you know me better 'n that! - (jb4) - (1)
                                 Thank you for the clarification. - (ben_tilly)
                         want to explain why stating a fact makes you racist? -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                             Fact? What fact? - (jb4) - (5)
                                 Of course crime rate would go down - (boxley) - (4)
                                     What do you mean by rate? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                         youts cause crime,removing youts lessens crime -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                             True! - (ben_tilly)
                                             Now we're Getting somewhere! - (Ashton)
                     Other correct statement - legalizing drugs will act similar - (tuberculosis)
                     Can we see even a hand-waving proof of that? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (49)
                         I didn't think so. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                             Gimme time to type!!! - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                 Okay. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     Look at timestamps!!! - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                         Touchy, aren't ya? - (mmoffitt)
                         Sure - (ben_tilly) - (43)
                             I dunno - (pwhysall) - (19)
                                 That one is admittedly harder to prove - (ben_tilly) - (18)
                                     Wouldn't last - (drewk) - (17)
                                         Then show me Canada's permanent underclass -NT - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                                             I don't know Canadian society that well - (drewk) - (13)
                                                 They don't but... - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                                     I'm not talking about capitalism, but about human nature - (drewk) - (11)
                                                         Confirmed! 'He who is not One Up is One Down' - (Ashton)
                                                         Slavery also used to be defended as inevitable... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                             Where did you see me defending it? - (drewk) - (8)
                                                                 "defended" might be the wrong word - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                                                                     I may have noticed another aspect - (Ashton)
                                                                     Lots of disagreements - (drewk) - (5)
                                                                         On that last bit... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                                             I don't know about that - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                 You might have a point - see "stranger anxiety" -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                                             ethiopian comment, they are racially distinct - (boxley)
                                                                         We do have several disagreements - (ben_tilly)
                                             go to the nearest reservation.... -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 Granted, but in numbers and societal impact... - (ben_tilly)
                             Wait a minute... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Right, he disproved the argument they didn't make - (drewk)
                             Man, you took me literally. - (mmoffitt) - (20)
                                 "Forever to have nots?" - (imric) - (7)
                                     Let me be a little more clear. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                         I don't see it - (imric) - (3)
                                             If it doesn't have to be that way, can you ... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                 Sure - (drewk)
                                                 Nope! - (imric)
                                         entrenched underclasses are good for business - (boxley) - (1)
                                             Henry Ford would argue with you. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 That's not *Ben's* reasoning - (drewk) - (2)
                                     You should read him in his posts. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         Because it is - (drewk)
                                 Speaking of handwaving... - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                     What about this... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         What does "permanent" mean to you? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                             Briefly... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Then we differ on what permanently means - (ben_tilly)
                                     I would then argue for frenco canadians to hold the place - (boxley) - (3)
                                         Not comparable - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                             well ya were a west coaster, lets have jake weigh in on this - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 Things are very different now - (jake123)
         Jessie Jackson is a racist too. - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
             Other cool PC issue - (drewk) - (3)
                 Where do you suppose the people in the West Indies came from -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     China. - (Another Scott)
                 It's not Africa that's the problem . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Well, yes - (JayMehaffey) - (2)
                 The question a racist always has to ask, - (Ashton) - (1)
                     They called them indefinitely indentured servants. -NT - (folkert)
         Wrong. Proves hes a statistician - (bepatient) - (20)
             Are all statisticians racist, then? -NT - (mmoffitt)
             A poor one though. - (Another Scott) - (13)
                 You're right, but for the wrong reason - (drewk) - (12)
                     Superbly stated reason why - - (Ashton)
                     A slightly different view. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                         Both your views are 'right' IMO - (Ashton)
                         I think you're misunderstanding his point - (drewk) - (8)
                             Bingo - (bepatient) - (7)
                                 Yes, but be-Not a smug Boolean-head - I know it's Hard, here - (Ashton) - (6)
                                     From you, that's ironic - (drewk) - (4)
                                         Et tu captain clarity: Not. At. All. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                             If by "slogan word" you meant "racism" ... he didn't say it - (drewk) - (2)
                                                 [Raises hand] - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     Oohhh.. spinning the def'n of spin! - (Ashton)
                                     Did you hear the entire thread of his show? - (boxley)
             I would suspect both - (JayMehaffey) - (4)
                 No, he is not "literally" saying what you claim he is - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                     No argument with your qualified restatement, except - - (Ashton) - (2)
                         You don't understand. Gambling is a Virtue. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             I know.. Guido 'told' me. -NT - (Ashton)
         Jesse weighs in on Bennett (new thread) - (drewk)
         This thread reminds me of a classic PG essay (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
         Just an idiot not a racist - (andread) - (3)
             :-) - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Spin? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     Considering the original topic seemed to be Social Security - (Another Scott)

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