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New florida, last year 4 times
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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New Nowhere close
could've parked supplies in the southwest of FL and for the most part they would still be there.

Not so with this one. This was a "scrub the earth" storm.

Response is definitely not what we expect our government to be capable of. Some of the "rules of engagement" seem downright stupid now in hindsight. Requiring mayor and governer to ask for certain aspects of relief doesn't really consider that they simply may not be capable of asking for that assistance...or may be so overwhelmed as to not be able to handle the full responsibility of their duties (regardless of their capabilities).

However, if the federal government would have taken those state responsibilities away before this crisis, we would likely have been debating the "federal power grab" by the Dept of Home Sec.

Damned in you do, double damned when you don't.

At least we have John Wayne.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New birmingham jackson memphis montgomery lttlerock etc
and now in one hour you can drive from baton rouge to the quarter on dry pavement and there is still a lack of clean water food and minor nescessities in the city.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Not seeing the "still"
in any coverage.

Understand it was slow to get there. But its all there, including med care, food, water etc.

And the current issue is get everyone out of the city. All of them. It will not be a safe place to live for several weeks.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Several months, I'd say
It's going to take a looong time to clean that place up to a standard fit for human habitation. Some parts of the city will need to simply be buried for the necessary rehabilitation of the city's defences against the elements.

Finally, I sincerely hope that they follow the example of the Netherlands after their big disaster and plan and build for the ten thousand year storm. I for one think that New Orleans should be rebuilt, and largely where it is now; there is a lot of history and culture in that place, and it's not like it can't be done. Furthermore, it represents a great opportunity to make some aspects of the city much better than it is now.
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New fox, now talking to 82 yo woman at valance and 14th
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
     repo leaders dont want to spend money on new orleans - (boxley) - (53)
         s/white/elitist/ -NT - (jb4)
         does it make sense to? - (SpiceWare) - (14)
             ask Venice or Amsterdam, anyway we need the port -NT - (boxley) - (13)
                 I don't agree or disagree - (SpiceWare) - (12)
                     Architecturally musically culturally it should be saved - (boxley) - (11)
                         Amen, Box! -NT - (jb4)
                         I say bulldoze it as a prelude to fixing it. - (marlowe) - (9)
                             That you're an idiot? - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                                 He can't - (jake123)
                                 Actually I tend to agree with him.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                     Yes, parts probably should be filled . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                     Wouldn't work - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                         Or sooner, if the global warming stuff continues... -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 Yes, it works fine... until it stops working fine. - (marlowe) - (2)
                                     Consistent you are: far from any Real danger. Or imagined. -NT - (Ashton)
                                     Isn't that spelled "dyke" . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         It's another example of taking a sentence out of context. - (Another Scott) - (36)
             why is he backing up all over the wires if he didnt say it? - (boxley) - (35)
                 So he doesn't sound like a heartless, rich, whitey Repo man? - (Another Scott) - (33)
                     never claimed his statement was racist -NT - (boxley) - (32)
                         sure sounded that way - (SpiceWare) - (30)
                             a black leader wouldnt say that :-) -NT - (boxley) - (29)
                                 No... - (bepatient) - (28)
                                     yo at least rudy had a PD after 911 this guy has nothing - (boxley) - (27)
                                         box makes sense - (Silverlock) - (26)
                                             4 days? - (SpiceWare) - (5)
                                                 Nagin's Announcement from Saturday August 27. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                     He's been on the ball.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                         Let's not forget - (jake123) - (1)
                                                             I recall a similiar study in New Jersey - (SpiceWare)
                                                         The more this gets covered... - (bepatient)
                                             On Tuesday Nagin was complaining - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                 Give Nagin a little credit.... - (Simon_Jester)
                                                 got from kuwait to bahgdad in 3 days, fighting all the way - (boxley) - (17)
                                                     always love - (bepatient) - (16)
                                                         florida, last year 4 times -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                                             Nowhere close - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                 birmingham jackson memphis montgomery lttlerock etc - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                     Not seeing the "still" - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                         Several months, I'd say - (jake123)
                                                                         fox, now talking to 82 yo woman at valance and 14th -NT - (boxley)
                                                         Right, Beep - never expect competence in anything New - (Ashton) - (9)
                                                             Nobody getting a free pass - (bepatient) - (8)
                                                                 There is no oversight either - (hnick) - (7)
                                                                     I agree - (imqwerky) - (6)
                                                                         Trust me folks - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                             You evidently missed the nonpartisan part - (hnick)
                                                                             Gosh BP.... - (Simon_Jester)
                                                                         What should have been done... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                             Too risky - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                                 sometimes is depressing when you are right -NT - (boxley)
                         Ok. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                 Box: multiply 'port-city' N.O. by 1000\ufffd - (Ashton)

Grrrr, watch me beat my chest.
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