Post #221,362
8/29/05 9:02:19 AM
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Another problem
They should make an exception once the parents ask. The justification for not informing parents is that some kids will not report if they think their parents will find out. I can buy that. But once the parents ask, they already know something is up.
Parents know what the types of things that could be wrong that they won't be told about. Now the message they're getting is, "Your child has a sexual or drug problem, but we won't tell you exactly what." Assuming the parents we're worried about are the ones who are going to overreact, does this sound like an answer designed to calm them down? Or does it sound like license to speculate their own worst-cast scenario?
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Post #221,366
8/29/05 9:44:14 AM
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Thank you for expressing my thoughts
My daughter talked to me. She told me, but she wasn't sure what the nurse had told her (daughter has a comprehension/listening problem). I called the clinic and told them what my daughter had said. I even stated the assumed diagnosis. Nurse said she couldn't talk to me, but would gladly call my daughter again. That would have the same effect as repeating something LOUDER to someone who doesn't speak the language. Repeating and louder won't have any effect on comprehension.
Once clinic knows that child has talked to parent(s) information should be made available. I fully understand the need for confidentiality prior to child informing parents, but not after.
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Post #221,423
8/29/05 12:15:18 PM
8/21/07 5:43:35 AM
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Should provide consult w/ both of you there
if minor asks.
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Post #221,520
8/29/05 7:43:30 PM
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I still don't like it
First you're wrong about the message that the parents get. As it stands the message that they get is, We're not at liberty to discuss this topic. They neither get confirmation or denial that sex and drugs came up as issues. They get a big, blank slate. They don't get told, There is a problem, but we won't tell you what. They get told nothing.
Review the case in point. The child gave out the clue that there was a potential problem. Nothing that the clinic said gave that away.
Now your policy is basically an open invitation for suspicious parents to go on "fishing expeditions" to see if something is up. Which completely defeats the point of having confidentiality here in the first place.
Again, consider the case where the parents run a drug operation, or the child is being sexually abused by a parent. Do you really think that the parent should be told what the child said? And before you suggest that the policy be to restrict what is said in that case, be aware that this is a signal to the parent that their kid said something they shouldn't, and further the clinic may not know of the issue, but telling a seemingly innocuous detail to the parent might trigger rage.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #221,523
8/29/05 8:08:41 PM
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It's the dog that didn't bark
If I call the hospital and ask what they treated my minor daughter for, I'll hear one of three types of things:
1. We haven't treated your daughter.
2. We set a broken arm.
3. We can't tell you.
If I don't hear 1 or 2, I know it must be 3. And I know what the possible reasons are.
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Post #221,524
8/29/05 8:13:42 PM
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Point. But...
all that the kid has to do is go in for 2 reasons. Then you'll hear all about the one that the kid wants you to hear about.
This works very well if the topic comes up during, say, a routine physical.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #221,534
8/29/05 9:37:15 PM
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then you ask who signed the consent to treat forms
unless its a planned parenthood clinic or a county std clinic, then you know what they are being treated for. Also if your insurance is dinged you have every right to see the records submitted for payment, then request the insurance not pay the claim until you have a diagnosis.
thanx,
bill
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Post #221,580
8/30/05 10:34:57 AM
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Or, given the predilection physicians show for ...
electronic records and internet transfer of such, just hack it ;0)
bcnu,
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