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Post #220,160
by jb4
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8/19/05 5:25:30 PM
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New Ididn't know the USA constituted the whole planet!
Shoot to kill is fine, in the USA
As long as those being shot at are innocent Iraqis who get the living fuck shot out of them by US troops.
Try parsing that sentence from your post. If you speak English, you'll see that the assertion is that innocent Iraqis are getting hte living fuck shot out of them by US Troops, in the USA.

Now go dangle your modifiers somewhere else, goddammit!
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Post #220,161
by pwhysall
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8/19/05 5:27:12 PM
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New Re: Ididn't know the USA constituted the whole planet!
"s/in the USA/with the USA/ but anyway:"

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Post #220,264
by CRConrad
8/20/05 9:07:49 PM
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New I can parse that for you:
"Shoot to kill is fine, in the USA" == "Shoot-to-kill is considered a fine policy, in the USA" == It's in the USA that the *considering* is done.

So, "Shoot-to-kill *Iraqis in Iraq* is, in the USA, considered a fine policy" == "Shoot-to-kill Iraqis in Iraq is considered a fine policy, in the USA" == "Shoot to kill is fine, in the USA".

So Peter's original unedited sentence *CAN* very fucking well be read as applying to shooting Iraqis in Iraq.

FYI, FWIW, QED, HTH, and all that. (No YMMV, though. 'Coz if it did, it'd be wrong.)


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Post #220,360
by jb4
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8/21/05 10:36:37 PM
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New Mah-noor!
And you can take your dangling modifiers and get your ass and Peter's out of my yard.

You see, the double-equals in your equation are badly misplaced.
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Post #220,378
by CRConrad
8/22/05 3:08:40 AM
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New Your noor, indeed, not mahn. They're placed *exactly* right.
Post #220,401
by jb4
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8/22/05 9:30:40 AM
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New And all this time, I was amazed at your mastery...
...of what was for you a foreign language. I see now that my admiration was somewhat misplaced.

FYI, the word "fine" does not mean "is considered a fine policy", at least in English (and to the best of my limited experience, not in German either; I don't know Finnish, so YMMV.)
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Post #220,407
by CRConrad
8/22/05 10:20:57 AM
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New The question wasn't about the WORD, "fine"...
...but the PHRASE, "is fine". Here are some varations on it:

- "Whaddayamean, Grelzakianism 'is fine'?"

- "Well, Grelzakianism is fine with me!"

- "Grelzakianism might 'be fine' where *you* live... But not here."

- "What, is Grelzakianism not fine in Finland?!?"

- "That's funny; Grelzakianism is perfectly fine in the USA."


So, you're saying the prase "is fine" in this fictional conversation is NOT about how "Grelzakianism" (whatever the fuck that may be; say, a policy) is regarded?!?


And here *I* had been reasonably... Well, let's say, satisfied -- with *your* grasp of English. But now I see that *my* impression may have been somewhat exaggerated.


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
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Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
     gosh...seems that the poor dead Brazilian - (rcareaga) - (90) - Aug. 17, 2005, 01:09:57 AM EDT
         Curious. - (mmoffitt) - (68) - Aug. 17, 2005, 10:47:03 AM EDT
             You're already way more fucked than we will ever be. - (pwhysall) - (66) - Aug. 17, 2005, 05:59:26 PM EDT
                 You elected the guy who let himself get ROLLED by that. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Aug. 17, 2005, 06:18:58 PM EDT
                     We'll self-correct, as we did post-Thatcher. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 17, 2005, 06:27:03 PM EDT
                         This is sad. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2005, 09:53:09 PM EDT
                             ICLRPDee (new thread) - (Ashton) - Aug. 17, 2005, 11:12:45 PM EDT
                 Show me where. - (mmoffitt) - (61) - Aug. 18, 2005, 10:05:03 AM EDT
                     DevAdvo:Don't tell jokes going through airport security. :-/ - (Another Scott) - (60) - Aug. 18, 2005, 10:25:11 AM EDT
                         Except the UK is already there, man. - (mmoffitt) - (59) - Aug. 18, 2005, 11:10:11 AM EDT
                             Fight The Powah! - (pwhysall) - (58) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:05:54 PM EDT
                                 look at the bright side, less bystander deaths on your end -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:13:47 PM EDT
                                 Re: Shoot-to-kill is nothing new on either side of the pond. - (mmoffitt) - (25) - Aug. 18, 2005, 02:07:48 PM EDT
                                     What makes you think there hasn't been tremendous public - (jake123) - (24) - Aug. 18, 2005, 02:14:59 PM EDT
                                         Linky to tremendous public outcry? -NT - (jb4) - (23) - Aug. 18, 2005, 02:36:26 PM EDT
                                             Well, it's big news here - (jake123) - (22) - Aug. 18, 2005, 05:04:52 PM EDT
                                                 Touch\ufffd! -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 18, 2005, 05:13:30 PM EDT
                                                 Non sequitor. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Aug. 18, 2005, 05:38:57 PM EDT
                                                     Yeah, the son was only shot in the back - (jake123) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:13:54 PM EDT
                                                     WTF!! what x-files episode were you watching to get that - (boxley) - (18) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:40:07 PM EDT
                                                         Nit: ATF ninjas, not FBI, IIRC. -NT - (jake123) - (17) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:49:43 PM EDT
                                                             feebs - (boxley) - (16) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:59:52 PM EDT
                                                                 FBI it is - (jake123) - (2) - Aug. 18, 2005, 07:32:04 PM EDT
                                                                     have you read "from freedom to slavery"? by the lawyer -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2005, 10:50:17 PM EDT
                                                                         Think that must have been it. - (jake123) - Aug. 18, 2005, 11:41:15 PM EDT
                                                                 Thank you for making my point about the difference. - (mmoffitt) - (12) - Aug. 19, 2005, 09:09:03 AM EDT
                                                                     I see, guilty until shot by cops -NT - (boxley) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:12:38 AM EDT
                                                                         Not at all. - (mmoffitt) - (8) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:21:45 AM EDT
                                                                             what was the circumstance of his prior acts? -NT - (boxley) - (7) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:53:07 AM EDT
                                                                                 IIRC it was carrying a rifle in his truck. -NT - (jake123) - (6) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:54:08 AM EDT
                                                                                     make him look, it was balatent entrapment -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Aug. 19, 2005, 01:38:24 PM EDT
                                                                                         Wasn't aware that carrying a rifle in your truck was illegal - (jake123) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2005, 02:28:50 PM EDT
                                                                                             It isn't. And that is NOT REMOTELY what it was. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Aug. 19, 2005, 03:46:42 PM EDT
                                                                                                 Yeah, after all, a "man in fatigues" is immediately - (jake123) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2005, 05:04:01 PM EDT
                                                                                                     DOJ Report on Ruby Ridge. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2005, 06:23:07 PM EDT
                                                                                                         if that is a statement of fact I now must turn raellian - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2005, 06:30:04 PM EDT
                                                                     That hardly covers his wife and son. - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:20:32 AM EDT
                                                                         See Edit above ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:22:35 AM EDT
                                 One more thing. Your attitude is scary. - (mmoffitt) - (30) - Aug. 18, 2005, 05:37:54 PM EDT
                                     When was the last time you demonstrated on behalf of someone - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:14:54 PM EDT
                                         Well... - (jb4) - Aug. 18, 2005, 06:32:25 PM EDT
                                     Re: One more thing. Your attitude is scary. - (pwhysall) - (27) - Aug. 18, 2005, 11:16:46 PM EDT
                                         pay attention marlowe you might learn something -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2005, 11:18:41 PM EDT
                                             Thanks, I think... -NT - (pwhysall) - Aug. 18, 2005, 11:22:09 PM EDT
                                         Again, a mischaracterization. - (mmoffitt) - (24) - Aug. 19, 2005, 09:18:01 AM EDT
                                             Goes to show you: Ben Franklin wasn't a Brit... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2005, 09:43:13 AM EDT
                                                 ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 19, 2005, 09:50:44 AM EDT
                                             Shoot to kill is fine, in the USA - (pwhysall) - (21) - Aug. 19, 2005, 11:58:17 AM EDT
                                                 Excuse me, but can you give me a linky to... - (jb4) - (20) - Aug. 19, 2005, 12:54:44 PM EDT
                                                     You keep your tongue away from my ass - (pwhysall) - (19) - Aug. 19, 2005, 01:07:38 PM EDT
                                                         Hmmmm...not an Iraqi in the bunch. Thanks for playing.... -NT - (jb4) - (15) - Aug. 19, 2005, 01:46:42 PM EDT
                                                             You're being intentionally obtuse here. - (jake123) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2005, 02:30:34 PM EDT
                                                                 I rather don't think so - (jb4) - (8) - Aug. 19, 2005, 05:11:23 PM EDT
                                                                     s/continent/planet/ - (pwhysall) - (7) - Aug. 19, 2005, 05:15:25 PM EDT
                                                                         Ididn't know the USA constituted the whole planet! - (jb4) - (6) - Aug. 19, 2005, 05:25:30 PM EDT
                                                                             Re: Ididn't know the USA constituted the whole planet! - (pwhysall) - Aug. 19, 2005, 05:27:12 PM EDT
                                                                             I can parse that for you: - (CRConrad) - (4) - Aug. 20, 2005, 09:07:49 PM EDT
                                                                                 Mah-noor! - (jb4) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2005, 10:36:37 PM EDT
                                                                                     Your noor, indeed, not mahn. They're placed *exactly* right. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - Aug. 22, 2005, 03:08:40 AM EDT
                                                                                         And all this time, I was amazed at your mastery... - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 22, 2005, 09:30:40 AM EDT
                                                                                             The question wasn't about the WORD, "fine"... - (CRConrad) - Aug. 22, 2005, 10:20:57 AM EDT
                                                             Point being... - (pwhysall) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2005, 03:18:00 PM EDT
                                                                 its more a shoot in the general direction of the subject -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2005, 03:20:59 PM EDT
                                                                 The difference is we insist on cause. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2005, 03:49:17 PM EDT
                                                                     if they are as dark as that brazillian that is cause -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2005, 06:05:53 PM EDT
                                                                         And when that happens, riots ensue. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 21, 2005, 01:12:44 PM EDT
                                                         Interesting choice that third one. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2005, 02:38:00 PM EDT
                                                             If it validates your worldview. - (pwhysall) - Aug. 19, 2005, 03:06:15 PM EDT
                                                         ICLRPD - (imqwerky) - Aug. 19, 2005, 07:36:08 PM EDT
             Beg to compare absurdities, before experiencing that 'lump' - (Ashton) - Aug. 17, 2005, 06:00:52 PM EDT
         Yo! warmachine! Need I say it...? - (jb4) - (20) - Aug. 17, 2005, 11:58:10 AM EDT
             Go ahead - (warmachine) - (19) - Aug. 17, 2005, 12:22:31 PM EDT
                 small villa in Majorca maybe where benny hill is your waiter -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 17, 2005, 12:24:26 PM EDT
                 It ain't no fun if it's solicited, but since you asked... - (jb4) - (17) - Aug. 17, 2005, 12:47:16 PM EDT
                     Explain why! -NT - (warmachine) - (16) - Aug. 17, 2005, 12:48:44 PM EDT
                         You ARE kidding, right? - (jb4) - (15) - Aug. 17, 2005, 12:55:44 PM EDT
                             It's no different over there - (pwhysall) - (12) - Aug. 17, 2005, 01:30:50 PM EDT
                                 Ahem. -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Aug. 17, 2005, 03:28:06 PM EDT
                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 17, 2005, 05:47:44 PM EDT
                                 It has nothing to do with smug - (jb4) - (9) - Aug. 17, 2005, 04:50:46 PM EDT
                                     Have you *read* USA-PATRIOT? - (pwhysall) - (8) - Aug. 17, 2005, 05:28:33 PM EDT
                                         sorry dude - (jb4) - (7) - Aug. 17, 2005, 06:13:42 PM EDT
                                             I'm not defending anything - (pwhysall) - (6) - Aug. 17, 2005, 06:14:30 PM EDT
                                                 s/if not more// -NT - (jb4) - (5) - Aug. 17, 2005, 10:52:54 PM EDT
                                                     You sure? - (pwhysall) - (4) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:10:57 AM EDT
                                                         I think he meant... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:17:12 AM EDT
                                                             Oh, yuo aer teh funneh! - (pwhysall) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:25:05 AM EDT
                                                         Lets try: s/if not more/as/ - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 18, 2005, 09:44:35 AM EDT
                                                             "s/if not more fucked that/as fucked as/" HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - Aug. 18, 2005, 12:43:36 PM EDT
                             Better -NT - (warmachine) - Aug. 17, 2005, 01:40:15 PM EDT
                             s /dense pill/Dunce pill/ Save CRC the trouble. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 17, 2005, 04:22:37 PM EDT

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