Post #219,777
8/17/05 4:50:07 PM
8/17/05 4:50:46 PM
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It has nothing to do with smug
It has to do with what the fuck your Berk and our Berk are doing to our world. As bad as the "patriot" act is, it doesn't (at my last reading, anyway) authorize shoot-to-kill. Nor does it authorize the deportation of native-born nationals under any circumstances; for that matter, it doesn't authorize deportation of foreign born nationals for such things as advocating the overthrow of the govenrment, or for such mundanities as have the audacity to visit an unapproved website. It does authorize all sorts of heretorfore illegal surveilance, search and siezure, and is a data warehousers wet dream. But the only thing those dreamers are shooting is gizm, not bullets.
(And I'd say that was a rather significant difference, wouldn't you?)
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jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Edited by jb4
Aug. 17, 2005, 04:50:46 PM EDT
It has nothing to do with smug
It has to do with what the fuck your Berk and our berk are doung to our world. As bad as the "patriot" act is, it doesn't (at my last reading, anyway) authorize shoot-to-kill. Nor does it authorize the deportation of native-born nationals under any circumstances; for that matter, it doesn't authorize deportation of foreign born nationals for such things as advocating the overthrow of the govenrment, or for such mundanities as have the audacity to visit an unapproved website. It does authorize all sorts of heretorfore illegal surveilance, search and siezure, and is a data warehousers wet dream. But the only thing those dreamers are shooting is gizm, not bullets.
(And I'd say that was a rather significant difference, wouldn't you?)
jb4
shrub•bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #219,787
8/17/05 5:28:33 PM
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Have you *read* USA-PATRIOT?
It's not so much an act as a non-context diff.
It may well authorise shoot-to-kill; you as a normal human have no chance whatsoever of determining this.
And I'd say that shoot-to-kill is modus operandi in Iraq, so, yes, they do.
And on the foreign-born national thing? Gitmo. Detention without charge. Secret military tribunals. Etc.
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Post #219,798
8/17/05 6:13:42 PM
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sorry dude
And on the foreign-born national thing? Gitmo. Detention without charge. Secret military tribunals. Sorry, dude, but that far antedated PAT-Riot. The President (in the abstract, as opposed to the instance now holding that title) has had the ability do authorize all that for quite some time now. And I'd say that shoot-to-kill is modus operandi in Iraq, so, yes, they do. You're going to have to do much better than that. As the latest incarnation ofthe War Powers act gives the military (cf police) powers to invade a sovereign state for the purpose of securing their oil supplyDemocracy for that benighted part of the world, they can shoot whenver they want. The army hasn't invaded the USA (yet...). Not up to your normal rhetorical style, Pete, but then it is rather more difficult to defend the indefensible, now isn't it...? jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #219,799
8/17/05 6:14:30 PM
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I'm not defending anything
I'm just pointing out that you are at least if not more fucked that I am.
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Post #219,848
8/17/05 10:52:54 PM
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s/if not more//
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #219,858
8/18/05 12:10:57 AM
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You sure?
My not-very-grammatical sentence makes even less sense if you do that.
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Post #219,859
8/18/05 12:17:12 AM
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I think he meant...
s /at least if not more fucked that I am/really missing out if you're not using Eclipse for perl like me/
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #219,860
8/18/05 12:25:05 AM
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Oh, yuo aer teh funneh!
I've tipped my waitress.
Peter
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Post #219,899
8/18/05 9:43:14 AM
8/18/05 9:44:35 AM
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Lets try: s/if not more/as/
It was late, and I was tired...(but I must say I like Another Scott's interpretation...).
And even then, its a CRC-worthy train wreck.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Aug. 18, 2005, 09:44:16 AM EDT
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Aug. 18, 2005, 09:44:35 AM EDT
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Post #219,946
8/18/05 12:39:25 PM
8/18/05 12:43:36 PM
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"s/if not more fucked that/as fucked as/" HTH!
Edited by CRConrad
Aug. 18, 2005, 12:42:21 PM EDT
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Aug. 18, 2005, 12:43:36 PM EDT
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