Oh man, are they ever!

Post #218,087 by mmoffitt 8/8/05 9:17:13 AM Reply	Oh man, are they ever! You never flew in 1960 172A did you? That's what I've got. Built 2 months after I was born (November, 1959). bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #218,104 by tonytib 8/8/05 11:32:15 AM Reply	Bit newer IIRC My 172 passenger time was in the late 1970's; my guess is the it was an early to mid '70s Cessna. Your airplane does sound like a classic. I wish GA were much healthier; it's kind of sad that Cessna & co are still selling the same basic designs today (yes, I know the avionics are better, but....) Tony
Post #218,111 by mmoffitt 8/8/05 12:27:38 PM Reply	Mine is a bit of a classic. 1960 was the first year for the swept tail. Which looks a little more "cool" but really cut down on rudder authority. I can't land mine in as much crosswind as I can a 1959 172. And mine is still a fastback - they didn't put the rear window in until '63 iirc. And I think the fastbacks look better anyway. I know the window was for airflow, but you really don't get much more in the way of speed or useful load in the later models (in fact, my field has a 1978 172 that cruises 1 knot faster and has 30 pounds less useful load - and it burns about 1/2 - 1 gallon more per hour). But the fact that the design has lasted as long as it has (except for paint and panel, you can't tell a 1965 from 2005 Skyhawk) is testiment to how good the design was. 22T is easy to fly and trues out at 124 mph. It does that with an 890 useful load, 38 gallons useful and I plan for 8 gal/hour burn (burns >>9/hour full rich and about 7.75 leaned). It's a very economical, simple, straight VFR airplane. The only thing I'd change is I wish it had a 300D Continental instead of a 300C. Maybe at overhaul, if I can find one, I'll put a 300D in it. bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #218,187 by imqwerky 8/8/05 5:05:57 PM Reply	When I was a traffic reporter Our company was too cheap to hire helicopters, so we hired out two fixed-wing aircraft: A Piper Archer, which flew over Dallas (we called it the "nice" one because it was a four seater) and the "crappy" one, which was a Cessna 152 that flew over Ft. Worth. I was usually a "mobile unit" reporter = drove around in a car like a maniac trying to get to the front of the traffic jam so I could give a report on why traffic was backed up. I got to fly in the aircraft when one of the guys would go on vacation. We flew at 1500 ft. Of course, the pilot did the take-offs and landings, but I got to steer a time or two. God, how I loved flying! Got to do Ft. Worth a lot. Then, Glory of Glories, I was promoted to flying over Dallas...Big D!, my big break! When I did the live feed for KNOK...I was on the air with Tom Joyner, who at the time was flying back and forth from Chicago. He dubbed me "Commander Amy", which was cool because it outranked the usual guy who he called "Captain Dave". Then Dave came back from vacation and I was back in a mobile unit, but, hey, had a ball while it lasted. Learning to fly is still on my list of things to do. What a great feeling! Peace, Amy Mr. Warhol, I got more than 15 minutes. And it's more like celebrity, not fame. ;) But it was a hoot. Illegitimi non corborundum.
Post #218,194 by mmoffitt 8/8/05 5:18:36 PM Reply	Learning to fly is, flat out, the best thing you can do. I had to wait a looooooooong time to learn myself (I'd wanted to ever since I was 5 years old and used to lie down in my backyard watching all the "little airplanes" fly overhead - there were a lot more in the sky in 1964). But I didn't get my ticket until 2002, shortly after my 43rd birthday. It consumes virtually every non-family related thought I have. In my office I have a JNCA-5 chart on the wall, along with an AOPA calendar, a poster of a 182T panel and a plaque my father-in-law gave me for my birthday with an image of a Cessna and my name with the date I got my ticket. On my reviews, my boss always asks me to set goals for the coming year. I've had two reviews with this guy and my only goal so far has been, "To become the corporate pilot." ;0) Of all the things I've done (and I don't mean to imply they are legion), flying is the one thing I've found that there is no part that I don't like. Hamburger up a landing - that's okay, it was still fun and it gives you an excuse to take off, fly around the patch and try it again ;0) bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #218,211 by tonytib 8/8/05 5:51:10 PM Reply	Captain is higher than Commander at least in the US Navy: Ensign-->Lt(j.g.)-->Lt-->Lt Cdr-->Cdr-->Capt-->Adm (4 varieties) However, the CO (Commanding Officer) of any ship is always referred to as the Captain of the ship. Army Captain is pretty low (same as Lt IIRC; Navy Captain = Army Colonel); this can lead to interesting situations when the services mix. Tony
Post #218,221 by imqwerky 8/8/05 6:18:54 PM Reply	Well, Bust my bubble, why doncha! It sounds better than Captain, at any rate. :-P Illegitimi non corborundum.
Post #218,224 by CRConrad 8/8/05 6:22:25 PM Reply	Relax; he's got the wrong services. Wouldn't it be the Air Force that's most relevant here, Tony? (Which I ain't gonna comment on... Seeing how I just scrood up on the Gripen / F-117 thang.) [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #218,233 by imqwerky 8/8/05 6:32:17 PM Reply	Thank you , Christian You are a gentleman and a scholar. Or would it be funnier to say, "You are an Officer and a Gentleman." /me blows a kiss ;) Peace, Amy Illegitimi non corborundum.
Post #218,239 by tonytib 8/8/05 6:44:15 PM Reply	Yes, and they use Army terms thus there are no Commanders at all in the Army or Air Force, see [link\|http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/officers.html\|http://www.defenseli...ias/officers.html] So she's still demoted.... BTW, isn't the B-2, although later than the F-117, also inherently unstable? Tony
Post #218,225 by boxley 8/8/05 6:22:27 PM Reply	same in UK navy commander is usually the xo of the captain but is capabable of being put in charge of a ship and men without a promotion. thanx, bill Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #218,234 by imqwerky 8/8/05 6:33:40 PM Reply	A kiss to you too, Sir Boxley Illegitimi non corborundum.

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