the last non socialist in the whitehouse was Harding

Post #218,086 by boxley 8/8/05 9:14:13 AM Reply	the last non socialist in the whitehouse was Harding Bush is a socialist it the traditional manner. All resources/people belong to the state. The state decides who receives the rewards. thanx, bill Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #218,093 by JayMehaffey 8/8/05 9:38:57 AM Reply	That gets into issues of definition Bush is a socialist it the traditional manner. I'm guessing that your definition of socialism is a bit different then mine. To me, Socialism implies that the government either owns or strongly regulates major industries. While the US government on paper does have strong regulations, those regulations are often written by the industry they are supposed to regulate and changed when that industry wants them changed. Thus real control is much lower then the pile of regulation would suggest. All resources/people belong to the state. The state decides who receives the rewards. I would consider the idea that everything belongs to the state as true of both communism and facism and not true of proper socalism. And Bush leans a lot more towards the facist then communistic end of the spectrum. Jay
Post #218,095 by boxley 8/8/05 9:52:51 AM Reply	state owned and operated is socialism, how else to define? Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #218,214 by JayMehaffey 8/8/05 5:59:07 PM Reply	But not all Economically socialism implies significant but not total control of industry. Either thru by owning companies or heavy regulation. Total ownership of all industry is more or less exclusive to communism. However fascism and other authoritarian governments often have total control over industry through regulation and outright orders, without having ownership. Jay

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