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Post #217,935

8/7/05 5:32:22 AM

Capacity or choice

Are you sure you're not confusing capacity with choice? From the assertion that truly evil people are mentally crippled, it does not follow the capacity for true evil is crippling. Someone can have the capacity to be truly evil but choose not to be truly evil. Considering a lot of murders are committed by loved ones, I'd say the difference between capacity and choice is large.

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Post #218,027

8/7/05 7:55:40 PM

Hey, warfarin - sometimes 'logic' Is enough!

[short form] Yup - capacity VS choice.

[funner form]
Jung was the most metaphysically ept of those legions endlessly yammerin about 'analyzin' a machine which is beyond-itself recursively Unanalyzable.
(Not that That stops any Univ from starting a Department, mind you/us)
Jung had a pretty good comprehension of Eastern scholarship through the ages.. Damn-good it seems, for any Western simplistic-inculcated drudge.

Those engrams, memes, archetypes -by anyothername- appear to be as essential to daily homo-sap machine-ops as is the h\ufffdmoglobin; anyone who claims to have 'eliminated' that er root-nature? might as well start a late-night Tee Vee Show and get paid for bloviating. 'Conquer' is about second-by-second Choice, then.

Oh and -
Ditto in Spades re all the BS everywhere, about the "character (!!), feelings, loving, hating, cajoling, Gender (!?!) and whispering-to-Moi" yada of the [Absolute] is blowing smoke at supersonic velocities.

The [Absolute] is a concept fucking Defined as
Without. Attributes. ..meaning:
'Defined' in Sanskrit itself!

(the Only language extant designed-for; 'premeditatedly'-designed for - attempting some useful communication about metaphysical ideas, among the few who ever pay much genuine Attention to such arcanery. ie Even re the unsustainable propositions: one needs to learn, eventually.. Why one Is 'unsustainable', if a chirpy Grasshopper is ever to grow-Upwards and not just bloat sideways, with more fatty cant.)

Still, most Will prefer George Burns anyway.. suck it up

I Who Be

How cloying is that? - (rcareaga) - (73) - July 14, 2005, 03:25:09 PM EDT

Aaah! Now I need a sponge for the monitor! -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 14, 2005, 01:31:24 PM EDT

Credit where due.. - (Ashton) - July 14, 2005, 06:13:22 PM EDT

Ooh! Atheism! - (warmachine) - (23) - July 18, 2005, 02:29:21 PM EDT

You're just being a spoilsport. - (Ashton) - July 15, 2005, 06:34:32 AM EDT

ICLRPD (of sorts) - (jb4) - (3) - July 15, 2005, 12:09:09 PM EDT

Toxic meme? - (warmachine) - (2) - July 20, 2005, 06:31:17 PM EDT

Much rather see Him on Meet the Press... - (jb4) - July 21, 2005, 03:08:41 PM EDT

Naaah.. they'uns jes Love___the George Burns \ufffd\ufffdolksy model. -NT - (Ashton) - July 21, 2005, 07:50:23 PM EDT

I just wonder where you learned your theology - (Arkadiy) - (17) - July 21, 2005, 09:50:18 PM EDT

What am I getting wrong, then? -NT - (warmachine) - (16) - July 26, 2005, 11:26:17 AM EDT

Re: What am I getting wrong, then? - (Arkadiy) - (15) - Aug. 3, 2005, 07:47:58 AM EDT

Lame excuses - (warmachine) - (14) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:18:56 AM EDT

"I would have started with lasers, eight o'clock, day one." - (imric) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:50:06 AM EDT

Well, yes! - (warmachine) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:31:03 AM EDT

Love. It._____but Point of Order flag, anyway - - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2005, 04:44:29 AM EDT

Yes, yes! I know most believers see the bible as metaphor. - (warmachine) - Aug. 5, 2005, 05:57:56 AM EDT

None so blind as those who won't see - (Arkadiy) - (9) - Aug. 6, 2005, 08:56:35 PM EDT

I'll explain it in terms he can understand - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 6, 2005, 08:50:15 PM EDT

Prefer a mad scientist idea - (warmachine) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2005, 10:58:44 PM EDT

that last frame......sez it all -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 7, 2005, 12:16:44 AM EDT

Seems as if Core Functions ___ were outsourced. - (Ashton) - Aug. 6, 2005, 10:31:44 PM EDT

Intellect without capacity for evil? - (warmachine) - (3) - Aug. 6, 2005, 10:37:29 PM EDT

I have met intellect without the capacity for evil - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 7, 2005, 12:20:16 AM EDT

Capacity or choice - (warmachine) - (1) - Aug. 7, 2005, 05:32:22 AM EDT

Hey, warfarin - sometimes 'logic' Is enough! - (Ashton) - Aug. 7, 2005, 07:55:40 PM EDT

My $0.02 on the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Aug. 7, 2005, 12:44:03 AM EDT

Ooooh this is going to get good! - (imqwerky) - (10) - July 15, 2005, 09:56:48 PM EDT

Do you think that the Pope approves of your theology? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (9) - July 16, 2005, 01:18:17 AM EDT

The Pope just issued a warning about Harry Potter - (bionerd) - (2) - July 16, 2005, 09:26:46 AM EDT

He may soon issue a letter of support. - (Another Scott) - July 16, 2005, 09:46:56 AM EDT

Oh Brother! - (imqwerky) - July 16, 2005, 12:37:43 PM EDT

I don't care if the pope approves - (imqwerky) - (3) - July 16, 2005, 12:26:59 PM EDT

About what I guessed. :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - July 16, 2005, 11:09:18 PM EDT

OT - (imqwerky) - (1) - July 17, 2005, 12:27:55 AM EDT

Replied -NT - (ben_tilly) - July 17, 2005, 02:54:41 AM EDT

Do you think she **cares** what the Pope thinks - (jb4) - (1) - July 18, 2005, 11:48:56 AM EDT

Theoretically she should - she's Catholic -NT - (ben_tilly) - July 18, 2005, 03:14:57 PM EDT

You missed the point - (Nightowl) - (35) - July 19, 2005, 11:06:23 AM EDT

And you missed his: It was still pretty awfully cloying. - (CRConrad) - (34) - July 19, 2005, 02:26:00 PM EDT

If I missed his, what was it? - (Nightowl) - (33) - July 20, 2005, 12:00:59 PM EDT

That's not smart, that's pathological - (drewk) - (27) - July 20, 2005, 12:13:03 PM EDT

Re: That's not smart, that's pathological - (Nightowl) - (26) - July 21, 2005, 02:09:02 AM EDT

How the fucking fuck can you NOT get it? - (CRConrad) - (10) - July 21, 2005, 03:32:42 AM EDT

Re: How the fucking fuck can you NOT get it? - (Nightowl) - (9) - July 21, 2005, 11:26:50 PM EDT

Nice rant - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 21, 2005, 05:51:09 PM EDT

Re: Nice rant - (Nightowl) - (1) - July 21, 2005, 06:17:20 PM EDT

Do what I do. - (inthane-chan) - July 21, 2005, 06:39:00 PM EDT

Cloying; similar to "I think you're being too Pollyanna-ish" - (Silverlock) - (1) - July 21, 2005, 09:54:22 PM EDT

Re: ...similar to "I think you're being too Pollyanna-ish" - (Nightowl) - July 21, 2005, 10:54:03 PM EDT

you almost got cstrated I need to have a long talk with john - (boxley) - (3) - July 21, 2005, 11:11:30 PM EDT

John read it already and laughed! - (Nightowl) - (2) - July 21, 2005, 11:25:06 PM EDT

female rotor router, no clit no parteey - (boxley) - (1) - July 22, 2005, 12:11:53 AM EDT

Hahaha - (Nightowl) - July 22, 2005, 12:18:36 AM EDT

You're mixing terms. - (Another Scott) - (14) - July 21, 2005, 08:18:25 AM EDT

Hmmm, trying to get it - (Nightowl) - (13) - July 21, 2005, 05:15:31 PM EDT

Brenda, in this case: they're (mostly) Fucked, y'know? - (Ashton) - (12) - July 21, 2005, 07:27:05 PM EDT

PS - that Word thing... again - (Ashton) - (2) - July 21, 2005, 08:34:50 PM EDT

Re: PS - that Word thing... again - (Nightowl) - (1) - July 21, 2005, 11:23:18 PM EDT

{chortle} - (Ashton) - July 21, 2005, 11:50:53 PM EDT

Re: Brenda, in this case: they're (mostly) Fucked, y'know? - (Nightowl) - (8) - July 21, 2005, 11:08:32 PM EDT

Oblig {blush} - (Ashton) - July 22, 2005, 12:08:32 AM EDT

FOR "INSERT DIETY HRE!!!!!! - (boxley) - (1) - July 22, 2005, 12:20:40 AM EDT

As the dentist said... - (broomberg) - July 22, 2005, 06:35:39 AM EDT

Your denial confirms it - (drewk) - (4) - July 22, 2005, 12:06:36 PM EDT

Re: Your denial confirms it - (Nightowl) - (1) - July 22, 2005, 12:39:14 PM EDT

Free clue - (pwhysall) - July 22, 2005, 05:56:23 PM EDT

**could be**?!? - (jb4) - (1) - July 22, 2005, 03:37:28 PM EDT

IthinkI'mgoingintomymind -NT - (Ashton) - July 22, 2005, 05:52:31 PM EDT

cloying is extreme clinging with mucho annoying -NT - (boxley) - (1) - July 20, 2005, 12:48:23 PM EDT

Say what? - (Nightowl) - July 21, 2005, 02:11:18 AM EDT

It was A:How cloying (=sickeningly sweet);B:How stupid! HTH. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - July 20, 2005, 03:53:44 PM EDT

Nope, doesn't help - (Nightowl) - (1) - July 21, 2005, 02:12:34 AM EDT

That would be because of point B then. -NT - (CRConrad) - July 21, 2005, 03:05:49 AM EDT

Like many lawyers, he's overly fond of argument, even when in agreement. Not that anyone here would be into that...
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