Post #217,757
8/5/05 3:19:39 PM
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Blue Angels Weekend
I've had them buzzing around outside the office window for the past couple days (we are up on a hill all alone). The first few times were cool. Now its getting annoying. Big show this weekend, then we can get back to normal.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #217,761
8/5/05 3:36:52 PM
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I was out camping in West Virginia once.
It was probably over 10 years ago now. <sigh> We were enjoying the scenery on a hike in the mountains. There was this low rumbling noise that gradually got louder, then suddenly 2 of [link|http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-6.htm|these] popped over the ridge and followed the valley out of sight.
It wasn't quite what I expected...
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #217,764
8/5/05 4:01:31 PM
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Friends of mine who alternated between . . .
. . working hard for a couple of years and then buming around the world for a couple years were touring the U.S. Southeast in a camper. Looking for a place to sleep for the night they found a wonderful beach, and were surprised there were no other campers there even though there were no "Keep Off" signs.
Late at night, just before turning in they heard a weird high pitched metalic whining sound, getting very loud. They looked in that direction and saw lights slowly rising and seriously wondered if they were about to have a "close encounter" experience. Then all was explained (including the empty beach) as a flight of F14s passed a couple hundred feet overhead - on afterburners.
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Post #217,763
8/5/05 3:44:28 PM
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Last year at Dayton we had all three.
Thunderbirds, Blue Angels and Snowbirds. First time ever all three were in the same show. It was, tres cool. Of course, I preferred the old and new prop aircraft (aerobatic and warbirds) ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #217,788
8/5/05 5:48:48 PM
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Are these more along your lines?
[link|http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1035&message=13594431|http://forums.dprevi...&message=13594431]
[link|http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1035&message=13727966|http://forums.dprevi...&message=13727966]
[link|http://www.pbase.com/hotduck/wings_over_gillespie_2005|http://www.pbase.com...er_gillespie_2005]
[link|http://paulgibbs.fotoblog.co.uk/c613838.html|http://paulgibbs.fot...o.uk/c613838.html]
My first flights were in Cessna 172s, when my grandfather would fly over to visit.
Tony
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Post #218,087
8/8/05 9:17:13 AM
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Oh man, are they ever!
You never flew in 1960 172A did you? That's what I've got. Built 2 months after I was born (November, 1959).
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #218,104
8/8/05 11:32:15 AM
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Bit newer IIRC
My 172 passenger time was in the late 1970's; my guess is the it was an early to mid '70s Cessna.
Your airplane does sound like a classic. I wish GA were much healthier; it's kind of sad that Cessna & co are still selling the same basic designs today (yes, I know the avionics are better, but....)
Tony
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Post #218,111
8/8/05 12:27:38 PM
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Mine is a bit of a classic.
1960 was the first year for the swept tail. Which looks a little more "cool" but really cut down on rudder authority. I can't land mine in as much crosswind as I can a 1959 172. And mine is still a fastback - they didn't put the rear window in until '63 iirc. And I think the fastbacks look better anyway. I know the window was for airflow, but you really don't get much more in the way of speed or useful load in the later models (in fact, my field has a 1978 172 that cruises 1 knot faster and has 30 pounds less useful load - and it burns about 1/2 - 1 gallon more per hour). But the fact that the design has lasted as long as it has (except for paint and panel, you can't tell a 1965 from 2005 Skyhawk) is testiment to how good the design was.
22T is easy to fly and trues out at 124 mph. It does that with an 890 useful load, 38 gallons useful and I plan for 8 gal/hour burn (burns >>9/hour full rich and about 7.75 leaned). It's a very economical, simple, straight VFR airplane. The only thing I'd change is I wish it had a 300D Continental instead of a 300C. Maybe at overhaul, if I can find one, I'll put a 300D in it.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #218,187
8/8/05 5:05:57 PM
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When I was a traffic reporter
Our company was too cheap to hire helicopters, so we hired out two fixed-wing aircraft: A Piper Archer, which flew over Dallas (we called it the "nice" one because it was a four seater) and the "crappy" one, which was a Cessna 152 that flew over Ft. Worth.
I was usually a "mobile unit" reporter = drove around in a car like a maniac trying to get to the front of the traffic jam so I could give a report on why traffic was backed up.
I got to fly in the aircraft when one of the guys would go on vacation. We flew at 1500 ft. Of course, the pilot did the take-offs and landings, but I got to steer a time or two. God, how I loved flying! Got to do Ft. Worth a lot. Then, Glory of Glories, I was promoted to flying over Dallas...Big D!, my big break!
When I did the live feed for KNOK...I was on the air with Tom Joyner, who at the time was flying back and forth from Chicago. He dubbed me "Commander Amy", which was cool because it outranked the usual guy who he called "Captain Dave".
Then Dave came back from vacation and I was back in a mobile unit, but, hey, had a ball while it lasted.
Learning to fly is still on my list of things to do. What a great feeling!
Peace,
Amy
Mr. Warhol, I got more than 15 minutes. And it's more like celebrity, not fame. ;)
But it was a hoot.
Illegitimi non corborundum.
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Post #218,194
8/8/05 5:18:36 PM
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Learning to fly is, flat out, the best thing you can do.
I had to wait a looooooooong time to learn myself (I'd wanted to ever since I was 5 years old and used to lie down in my backyard watching all the "little airplanes" fly overhead - there were a lot more in the sky in 1964). But I didn't get my ticket until 2002, shortly after my 43rd birthday. It consumes virtually every non-family related thought I have. In my office I have a JNCA-5 chart on the wall, along with an AOPA calendar, a poster of a 182T panel and a plaque my father-in-law gave me for my birthday with an image of a Cessna and my name with the date I got my ticket.
On my reviews, my boss always asks me to set goals for the coming year. I've had two reviews with this guy and my only goal so far has been, "To become the corporate pilot." ;0)
Of all the things I've done (and I don't mean to imply they are legion), flying is the one thing I've found that there is no part that I don't like. Hamburger up a landing - that's okay, it was still fun and it gives you an excuse to take off, fly around the patch and try it again ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #218,211
8/8/05 5:51:10 PM
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Captain is higher than Commander
at least in the US Navy:
Ensign-->Lt(j.g.)-->Lt-->Lt Cdr-->Cdr-->Capt-->Adm (4 varieties)
However, the CO (Commanding Officer) of any ship is always referred to as the Captain of the ship.
Army Captain is pretty low (same as Lt IIRC; Navy Captain = Army Colonel); this can lead to interesting situations when the services mix.
Tony
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Post #218,221
8/8/05 6:18:54 PM
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Well, Bust my bubble, why doncha!
It sounds better than Captain, at any rate.
:-P
Illegitimi non corborundum.
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Post #218,224
8/8/05 6:22:25 PM
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Relax; he's got the wrong services.
Wouldn't it be the Air Force that's most relevant here, Tony?
(Which I ain't gonna comment on... Seeing how I just scrood up on the Gripen / F-117 thang.)
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Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #218,233
8/8/05 6:32:17 PM
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Thank you , Christian
You are a gentleman and a scholar.
Or would it be funnier to say, "You are an Officer and a Gentleman."
/me blows a kiss ;)
Peace,
Amy
Illegitimi non corborundum.
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Post #218,239
8/8/05 6:44:15 PM
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Yes, and they use Army terms
thus there are no Commanders at all in the Army or Air Force, see [link|http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/officers.html|http://www.defenseli...ias/officers.html]
So she's still demoted....
BTW, isn't the B-2, although later than the F-117, also inherently unstable?
Tony
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Post #218,225
8/8/05 6:22:27 PM
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same in UK navy
commander is usually the xo of the captain but is capabable of being put in charge of a ship and men without a promotion.
thanx,
bill
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Post #218,234
8/8/05 6:33:40 PM
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A kiss to you too, Sir Boxley
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Post #217,773
8/5/05 4:46:39 PM
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Know what you mean.
They overfly my work AND my house - I know my house gets serious overflights during their actual stunts... :P
apt-get install godlike-powers
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Post #217,780
8/5/05 5:27:24 PM
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Used to watch cool stuff in Cowtown
We used to live in West Fort Worth and went to see the goings on at what used to be General Dynamics (now Lockheed Martin). Meacham Field is nearby as well. One really cool sight was when the space shuttle (can't remember which one) landed at Meacham Field and then was airlifted by 4 Chinook helicopters back to Florida.
The airshow was way cool, though. The Confederate Air Force was a sight to behold. And of course, the mighty F-14 Tomcats, which were built at the plant, sent a wave a of pride through the crowd as the theme of "Top Gun" blared over the loud speakers.
"I have the need..the Need for SPEED!"
Peace,
Amy
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Post #217,808
8/5/05 8:21:45 PM
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Hard to comprehend such precision in flight
Remember those drawings, showing various body organs in exaggerated size, to reflect their %brain utilization?
Mondo HANDS, but IIRC the general category of 'skin' was #1? brain user and also the largest organ.
(Ok Box - |______| space for lubricious datum ;-)
At my best, my reaction-times started to fail the internal checklist, I Can Do This at ~130ish. Of course though, at-speed you cannot make that sucker move quickly, laterally - in any event. Still .. things .. just happening TFFO (Britticism seen in many er Vincent, other ads of long ago: too fast for owner)
So I guess I can't imagine how you fly inches away from partner at x00 MPH in 3-D!
I mean, WHAT IF YOU HAD TO SNEEZE !!!
Amazing Shizz! F=MA \ufffd {skillz}
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Post #217,839
8/6/05 10:46:22 AM
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Whew, took me a second
I was trying to figure out how lighting one's emissions up was able to bother you in your office, then I figured out what you were talking about.
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