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New this part bothers me
[link|http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2172CD82-350D-4572-AD04-8689CC75F3CD.htm|http://english.aljaz...-8689CC75F3CD.htm]
Additionally, powers would be extended allowing the government to strip citizenship from people with British or dual nationality who "act in a way that is contrary to the interest of this country", Blair said.
perhaps a naturalized citizen, but a born in? Not quite right in my opinion.
thanx,
bill
Just call me Mr. Lynch \\

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New I suppose organized protest will be next?
Additionally, powers would be extended allowing the government to strip citizenship from people with British or dual nationality who "act in a way that is contrary to the interest of this country", Blair said.

Well now, according to some (including, but by no means limited to, those who spell their last names like B-U-S-H, R-O-V-E, N-I-X-O-N, or B-I-N-L-A-D-E-N), people who organize protests against the govenment or it policies are "act[ing] in a way that is contrary to the interests of [their] country".

If this goes through without some very necessary changes, its game over: The "wah ahn terrah" has been lost, the terrorist win. Matt...Run! Get out while you can (or before your forced to...)!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New I think Al-Jazeera are fabricating that part
Can't find it here [link|http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4748717.stm|http://news.bbc.co.u...itics/4748717.stm]

New grounds for deporting and excluding people from the UK - including fostering hatred or, advocating and justifying violence to further beliefs. The powers will cover statements already on record. Consultation on the plans will finish this month

Agreements with other countries, such as Jordan, to ensure people can be deported to their nations of origin without being tortured or ill-treated

Amend human rights laws, if necessary, to prevent legal obstacles to new deportation rules

Home secretary automatically to consider deporting any foreigner involved in listed extremist bookshops, centres, organisations and websites

Make justifying or glorifying terrorism anywhere an offence

Automatically refuse asylum to anyone with anything to do with terrorism anywhere

Consult on setting a maximum time limit for extraditions to other countries - Mr Blair said it was unacceptable that Rashid Ramda, wanted for the Paris Metro bombing 10 years ago, was still in the UK

Examine calls for police to be able to hold terror suspects for longer before pressing charges

Use more control orders against British terror suspects, who cannot be deported

Increase the number of special judges hearing terror cases

Review the threshold for gaining British citizenship and establish, with the Muslim community, a commission to advise how to better integrate parts of the community "presently inadequately integrated"

Create a list of foreign preachers who will be kept out of the UK and consult on creating new powers to close places of worship used to foment extremism

Use biometric visas for those from designated countries and compiling a database so people whose views or activities pose a threat to UK security can be kept out of the country. They could only appeal against the decision from overseas.
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New If al-Jazzera is make this up, they've got company
For example:

[link|http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/1718087.php|Indymedia] (you know, the guys whose servers were confiscated at the behest of the FBI and the Italian equivalent?)

[link|http://www.thedailystar.net/2005/08/06/d5080601096.htm|The Daily Star]

[link|http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_6-8-2005_pg1_1|The Daily Times (of Pakistan)]

To be fair, I'm not sure who all of these outfits are, but I do know Indymedia, and they tend not to just release others' news releases as their own. And the Daily Star (one or your tabloids?) uses the BBC as their byline.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Oooohh! Ex post facto laws!
New grounds for deporting and excluding people from the UK - including fostering hatred or, advocating and justifying violence to further beliefs. The powers will cover statements already on record. Consultation on the plans will finish this month [emphases added]

Just what a bellwether of democracy needs...a law to to put someone in jeopardy for engaging in perfectly legal activity at the time said activity commenced.

It's no wonder ex post facto laws are unconstitutional here in the Colonies.

King George (and Karl Rove) would be proud!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Good point
Matthew Greet


Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
New ObNationalIdentityCard Pitch:
Warning! Here it comes...

Use biometric visas for those from designated countries and compiling a database so people whose views or activities pose a threat to UK security can be kept out of the country. They could only appeal against the decision from overseas.

You didn't think they could pass up that opportunity, now did you? Yup, biometric identity documents gonna saaaave the Whorld, by crackee!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

     Yo, warmachine...Run! Get out while you can! - (jb4) - (22)
         Doesn't quite meet the criteria - (warmachine) - (14)
             But Matt... - (jb4) - (3)
                 They'll be denied visas too, then -NT - (warmachine)
                 Something that you're missing... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     Point taken! -NT - (jb4)
             this part bothers me - (boxley) - (6)
                 I suppose organized protest will be next? - (jb4)
                 I think Al-Jazeera are fabricating that part - (warmachine) - (4)
                     If al-Jazzera is make this up, they've got company - (jb4)
                     Oooohh! Ex post facto laws! - (jb4) - (1)
                         Good point -NT - (warmachine)
                     ObNationalIdentityCard Pitch: - (jb4)
             I think your post defines one of the differences... - (jb4) - (2)
                 Not quite - (warmachine) - (1)
                     Well if you ar white and nosy. canada might be good -NT - (boxley)
         Sounds pointless - (tuberculosis) - (4)
             ObYellowSubmarineRef: Argentina? -NT - (jb4) - (3)
                 Quit stealin my lines or.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                     Your lines? YOUR lines?!? - (jb4) - (1)
                         Thou sayest.. fwiw, but - (Ashton)
         It's true, the West's leadership sucks - (jake123) - (1)
             They've also out-Keynes'd the Econ-heads, - (Ashton)

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