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by bepatient

6/28/05 10:11:57 PM

Oh, I don't think so.

But you are welcome to your own opinion, even if it isn't shared by anyone else ;-)

Its a free country.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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forget f*** the police, police can now f*** you - (andread) - (98) - June 27, 2005, 12:14:56 PM EDT

NRA has been pointing that out for years - (drewk) - (97) - June 27, 2005, 12:41:24 PM EDT

Why sorry? -NT - (imric) - (2) - June 27, 2005, 01:31:56 PM EDT

For passing up a golden opportunity to not make a bad pun -NT - (drewk) - (1) - June 27, 2005, 01:43:26 PM EDT

Ah.... - (imric) - June 27, 2005, 02:34:45 PM EDT

Amendment 2 grants - (mmoffitt) - (93) - June 27, 2005, 02:30:26 PM EDT

Once again, look up Militia. - (imric) - (40) - June 27, 2005, 02:42:42 PM EDT

Indiana National Guard, Illinois National Guard, etc. HTH -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - June 27, 2005, 03:03:45 PM EDT

Nope. Insist all you like. - (imric) - (1) - June 27, 2005, 03:07:07 PM EDT

*tilt* -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 27, 2005, 05:50:30 PM EDT

Since defn # 3 there is by definition not able to be... - (CRConrad) - (36) - June 27, 2005, 03:13:24 PM EDT

What was the definition of "militia" when it was written? - (drewk) - (35) - June 27, 2005, 03:26:45 PM EDT

Defn 2 seems to point to National Guard. NG != Regular Army. -NT - (CRConrad) - (34) - June 27, 2005, 04:11:04 PM EDT

A militia = citizen soldiers - (Silverlock) - (33) - June 27, 2005, 04:38:03 PM EDT

If Amendment 2 concerned private ownership, ... - (mmoffitt) - (32) - June 27, 2005, 05:52:30 PM EDT

Show me where it says "State militia" - (drewk) - (31) - June 27, 2005, 05:54:54 PM EDT

Please see Miller, 1938. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (30) - June 28, 2005, 11:56:06 AM EDT

miller has nothing to do with states rights, - (boxley) - (29) - June 28, 2005, 01:02:14 PM EDT

Nice parsing. Missed the intent of the ruling entirely. - (mmoffitt) - (28) - June 28, 2005, 01:05:46 PM EDT

Yeah, it says just what the Box said it says. - (Andrew Grygus) - June 28, 2005, 01:08:57 PM EDT

Strictly to do with concealed weapons. -NT - (admin) - June 28, 2005, 01:17:42 PM EDT

dont see the word "state run" anywhere in there -NT - (boxley) - (24) - June 28, 2005, 01:22:26 PM EDT

Whose "militia" is it? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (23) - June 28, 2005, 01:26:14 PM EDT

Why, THE PEOPLE'S, of course. - (imric) - (21) - June 28, 2005, 01:34:16 PM EDT

You're almost there. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - June 28, 2005, 03:03:27 PM EDT

It was a tweak, son. I say, a tweak. - (imric) - (19) - June 28, 2005, 03:30:58 PM EDT

It is a right to collectively protect a State. - (mmoffitt) - (18) - June 28, 2005, 03:54:42 PM EDT

And the way to do it is for people to KEEP and BEAR arms. - (imric) - (17) - June 28, 2005, 04:11:55 PM EDT

My last on this. And I don't think you can argue this point. - (mmoffitt) - (16) - June 28, 2005, 05:16:23 PM EDT

I think you're wrong about this. - (Another Scott) - June 28, 2005, 05:59:13 PM EDT

Sure I can. - (imric) - (14) - June 28, 2005, 08:18:42 PM EDT

By all means.. Go For It - (Ashton) - (13) - June 28, 2005, 09:49:30 PM EDT

Funny, Ash. - (imric) - (12) - June 28, 2005, 11:10:53 PM EDT

in a pinch Ashton is not unarmed, he just regrets the need -NT - (boxley) - (11) - June 28, 2005, 11:25:17 PM EDT

Regrets the need? - (imric) - (10) - June 29, 2005, 12:58:05 AM EDT

You aren't really going to get it, are you? - (Ashton) - (9) - June 29, 2005, 02:33:24 AM EDT

Silly boy. - (imric) - (8) - June 29, 2005, 07:09:04 AM EDT

{chortle} Thanks for playing. - (Ashton) - (7) - June 29, 2005, 05:04:10 PM EDT

For Ash, the word "succinct" is blasphemy - (Silverlock) - (6) - June 29, 2005, 09:40:48 PM EDT

simple he scratches his arse - (boxley) - (3) - June 29, 2005, 09:48:02 PM EDT

For Box, the word "clarity", no, I won't do it. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - June 29, 2005, 09:56:45 PM EDT

Dude, you just did -NT - (drewk) - (1) - June 29, 2005, 10:42:33 PM EDT

Is your it, his it? -NT - (ben_tilly) - June 29, 2005, 10:47:44 PM EDT

[Gawd] + [Guns] = will never a sonnet make. (The VB version) -NT - (Ashton) - June 29, 2005, 11:54:10 PM EDT

Silverlock, when you get Ash and Box in a debate... - (jb4) - June 30, 2005, 11:16:54 AM EDT

Militia is the same as Posse - (boxley) - June 28, 2005, 01:44:49 PM EDT

So they defined what arms are covered - (drewk) - June 28, 2005, 02:12:54 PM EDT

Miller decision is as valid as USSC elect bush decision -NT - (boxley) - (51) - June 27, 2005, 02:43:38 PM EDT

Hardly. - (mmoffitt) - (50) - June 27, 2005, 03:03:05 PM EDT

so the militia helping the border guards - (boxley) - (49) - June 27, 2005, 03:38:23 PM EDT

Those are your prime examples of *well-regulated* militias? -NT - (CRConrad) - (48) - June 27, 2005, 04:10:00 PM EDT

certainly they are well regulated, by members - (boxley) - (47) - June 27, 2005, 04:16:37 PM EDT

That's why they call themselves eg: Michigan Militia -NT - (drewk) - (46) - June 27, 2005, 04:27:24 PM EDT

That's a private (non-State Sanctioned) group. - (mmoffitt) - (45) - June 27, 2005, 05:53:53 PM EDT

Amendment 2 doesn't say "state sanctioned" -NT - (admin) - (44) - June 27, 2005, 06:10:42 PM EDT

Amendment 2 concerns States' Rights. - (mmoffitt) - (43) - June 28, 2005, 11:55:25 AM EDT

Nope. Wrong again. - (imric) - (9) - June 28, 2005, 12:39:05 PM EDT

Nice try. It's *YOU* that needs an amendment. - (mmoffitt) - June 28, 2005, 12:59:52 PM EDT

Any non-contorted reading of that sentence . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - June 28, 2005, 01:04:21 PM EDT

No. - (mmoffitt) - June 28, 2005, 01:07:33 PM EDT

Also... - (pwhysall) - (5) - June 28, 2005, 01:13:59 PM EDT

Well, a case could be made . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - June 28, 2005, 01:24:52 PM EDT

Re: Well, a case could be made . . - (pwhysall) - (1) - June 28, 2005, 07:21:39 PM EDT

I think crew served weapons would not be in order - (boxley) - June 28, 2005, 07:42:39 PM EDT

you can own artillery, and use it on special occasions - (boxley) - (1) - June 28, 2005, 01:42:51 PM EDT

My uncle has a "3 pounder". - (Another Scott) - June 28, 2005, 02:07:35 PM EDT

You're reaching. - (admin) - (32) - June 28, 2005, 12:57:55 PM EDT

So, I, the ENTIRE legal community and the USSC are wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (31) - June 28, 2005, 01:00:23 PM EDT

Entire Legal community? hardly -NT - (boxley) - (6) - June 28, 2005, 01:03:08 PM EDT

*blam* *VRRRROooooommmmm....* -NT - (pwhysall) - June 28, 2005, 01:04:33 PM EDT

Find a respected law journal that argues the NRA's position. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - June 28, 2005, 01:08:02 PM EDT

Lawyers have a very obvious agenda. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - June 28, 2005, 01:20:51 PM EDT

I never suggested they did. -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 28, 2005, 01:25:50 PM EDT

US Justice Department? Oh you said respected :-) -NT - (boxley) - June 28, 2005, 01:23:32 PM EDT

howabout the 1857 supreme court? - (boxley) - June 28, 2005, 01:49:49 PM EDT

Miller was about *concealed* weapons. -NT - (admin) - (23) - June 28, 2005, 01:19:37 PM EDT

Transport of a sawed-off shotgun. - (mmoffitt) - (22) - June 28, 2005, 01:24:37 PM EDT

Er, yes. A concealed weapon. Your point? -NT - (admin) - June 28, 2005, 01:48:56 PM EDT

And you'll notice - (bepatient) - (4) - June 28, 2005, 02:09:06 PM EDT

You, Scott and the NRA, right? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - June 28, 2005, 03:04:46 PM EDT

I'm not an NRA member. - (bepatient) - (2) - June 28, 2005, 04:46:59 PM EDT

See my last. You are, once again, wrong. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 28, 2005, 05:17:11 PM EDT

Oh, I don't think so. - (bepatient) - June 28, 2005, 10:11:57 PM EDT

apparently you can roll your own machine guns now - (boxley) - (15) - June 28, 2005, 02:21:11 PM EDT

Don't hold your breath. - (mmoffitt) - (14) - June 28, 2005, 03:08:37 PM EDT

You realize that was the intent, right? - (drewk) - (13) - June 28, 2005, 03:17:47 PM EDT

Wrong. But it's pointless to argue this anymore. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 28, 2005, 03:53:40 PM EDT

yes you are...and yes it is. -NT - (bepatient) - June 28, 2005, 04:49:53 PM EDT

In many ways the whole thing is a Grand Diversion - << \ufffd >>- - (Ashton) - (10) - June 28, 2005, 05:34:52 PM EDT

Not a toughie. - (Yendor) - June 28, 2005, 05:44:10 PM EDT

heck, the only gun I ever need,,, is your gun - (boxley) - June 28, 2005, 06:59:07 PM EDT

I should have fled when I had the chance. -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 29, 2005, 10:08:52 AM EDT

Follow your pyramid. - (bepatient) - (6) - June 29, 2005, 10:33:15 AM EDT

Maslow builds pyramids - (Ashton) - (5) - June 29, 2005, 05:23:21 PM EDT

ROFL! -NT - (mmoffitt) - June 29, 2005, 05:25:00 PM EDT

Point well ignored, I see. -NT - (bepatient) - (3) - June 29, 2005, 09:30:32 PM EDT

Hardly missed. Different priorities on my pyramid. -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - June 30, 2005, 12:09:20 AM EDT

I keep forgetting - (bepatient) - (1) - June 30, 2005, 01:56:09 PM EDT

I keep remembering - (Ashton) - June 30, 2005, 04:14:55 PM EDT

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