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yes you are...and yes it is.
Post #212,904
by
bepatient
6/28/05 4:49:53 PM
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yes you are...and yes it is.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.
Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
forget f*** the police, police can now f*** you
- (
andread
)
- (98)
- June 27, 2005, 12:14:56 PM EDT
NRA has been pointing that out for years
- (
drewk
)
- (97)
- June 27, 2005, 12:41:24 PM EDT
Why sorry?
-NT
- (
imric
)
- (2)
- June 27, 2005, 01:31:56 PM EDT
For passing up a golden opportunity to not make a bad pun
-NT
- (
drewk
)
- (1)
- June 27, 2005, 01:43:26 PM EDT
Ah....
- (
imric
)
- June 27, 2005, 02:34:45 PM EDT
Amendment 2 grants
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (93)
- June 27, 2005, 02:30:26 PM EDT
Once again, look up Militia.
- (
imric
)
- (40)
- June 27, 2005, 02:42:42 PM EDT
Indiana National Guard, Illinois National Guard, etc. HTH
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (2)
- June 27, 2005, 03:03:45 PM EDT
Nope. Insist all you like.
- (
imric
)
- (1)
- June 27, 2005, 03:07:07 PM EDT
*tilt*
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 27, 2005, 05:50:30 PM EDT
Since defn # 3 there is by definition not able to be...
- (
CRConrad
)
- (36)
- June 27, 2005, 03:13:24 PM EDT
What was the definition of "militia" when it was written?
- (
drewk
)
- (35)
- June 27, 2005, 03:26:45 PM EDT
Defn 2 seems to point to National Guard. NG != Regular Army.
-NT
- (
CRConrad
)
- (34)
- June 27, 2005, 04:11:04 PM EDT
A militia = citizen soldiers
- (
Silverlock
)
- (33)
- June 27, 2005, 04:38:03 PM EDT
If Amendment 2 concerned private ownership, ...
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (32)
- June 27, 2005, 05:52:30 PM EDT
Show me where it says "State militia"
- (
drewk
)
- (31)
- June 27, 2005, 05:54:54 PM EDT
Please see Miller, 1938.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (30)
- June 28, 2005, 11:56:06 AM EDT
miller has nothing to do with states rights,
- (
boxley
)
- (29)
- June 28, 2005, 01:02:14 PM EDT
Nice parsing. Missed the intent of the ruling entirely.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (28)
- June 28, 2005, 01:05:46 PM EDT
Yeah, it says just what the Box said it says.
- (
Andrew Grygus
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:08:57 PM EDT
Strictly to do with concealed weapons.
-NT
- (
admin
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:17:42 PM EDT
dont see the word "state run" anywhere in there
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (24)
- June 28, 2005, 01:22:26 PM EDT
Whose "militia" is it?
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (23)
- June 28, 2005, 01:26:14 PM EDT
Why, THE PEOPLE'S, of course.
- (
imric
)
- (21)
- June 28, 2005, 01:34:16 PM EDT
You're almost there.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (20)
- June 28, 2005, 03:03:27 PM EDT
It was a tweak, son. I say, a tweak.
- (
imric
)
- (19)
- June 28, 2005, 03:30:58 PM EDT
It is a right to collectively protect a State.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (18)
- June 28, 2005, 03:54:42 PM EDT
And the way to do it is for people to KEEP and BEAR arms.
- (
imric
)
- (17)
- June 28, 2005, 04:11:55 PM EDT
My last on this. And I don't think you can argue this point.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (16)
- June 28, 2005, 05:16:23 PM EDT
I think you're wrong about this.
- (
Another Scott
)
- June 28, 2005, 05:59:13 PM EDT
Sure I can.
- (
imric
)
- (14)
- June 28, 2005, 08:18:42 PM EDT
By all means.. Go For It
- (
Ashton
)
- (13)
- June 28, 2005, 09:49:30 PM EDT
Funny, Ash.
- (
imric
)
- (12)
- June 28, 2005, 11:10:53 PM EDT
in a pinch Ashton is not unarmed, he just regrets the need
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (11)
- June 28, 2005, 11:25:17 PM EDT
Regrets the need?
- (
imric
)
- (10)
- June 29, 2005, 12:58:05 AM EDT
You aren't really going to get it, are you?
- (
Ashton
)
- (9)
- June 29, 2005, 02:33:24 AM EDT
Silly boy.
- (
imric
)
- (8)
- June 29, 2005, 07:09:04 AM EDT
{chortle} Thanks for playing.
- (
Ashton
)
- (7)
- June 29, 2005, 05:04:10 PM EDT
For Ash, the word "succinct" is blasphemy
- (
Silverlock
)
- (6)
- June 29, 2005, 09:40:48 PM EDT
simple he scratches his arse
- (
boxley
)
- (3)
- June 29, 2005, 09:48:02 PM EDT
For Box, the word "clarity", no, I won't do it.
-NT
- (
Silverlock
)
- (2)
- June 29, 2005, 09:56:45 PM EDT
Dude, you just did
-NT
- (
drewk
)
- (1)
- June 29, 2005, 10:42:33 PM EDT
Is your it, his it?
-NT
- (
ben_tilly
)
- June 29, 2005, 10:47:44 PM EDT
[Gawd] + [Guns] = will never a sonnet make. (The VB version)
-NT
- (
Ashton
)
- June 29, 2005, 11:54:10 PM EDT
Silverlock, when you get Ash and Box in a debate...
- (
jb4
)
- June 30, 2005, 11:16:54 AM EDT
Militia is the same as Posse
- (
boxley
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:44:49 PM EDT
So they defined what arms are covered
- (
drewk
)
- June 28, 2005, 02:12:54 PM EDT
Miller decision is as valid as USSC elect bush decision
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (51)
- June 27, 2005, 02:43:38 PM EDT
Hardly.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (50)
- June 27, 2005, 03:03:05 PM EDT
so the militia helping the border guards
- (
boxley
)
- (49)
- June 27, 2005, 03:38:23 PM EDT
Those are your prime examples of *well-regulated* militias?
-NT
- (
CRConrad
)
- (48)
- June 27, 2005, 04:10:00 PM EDT
certainly they are well regulated, by members
- (
boxley
)
- (47)
- June 27, 2005, 04:16:37 PM EDT
That's why they call themselves eg: Michigan Militia
-NT
- (
drewk
)
- (46)
- June 27, 2005, 04:27:24 PM EDT
That's a private (non-State Sanctioned) group.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (45)
- June 27, 2005, 05:53:53 PM EDT
Amendment 2 doesn't say "state sanctioned"
-NT
- (
admin
)
- (44)
- June 27, 2005, 06:10:42 PM EDT
Amendment 2 concerns States' Rights.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (43)
- June 28, 2005, 11:55:25 AM EDT
Nope. Wrong again.
- (
imric
)
- (9)
- June 28, 2005, 12:39:05 PM EDT
Nice try. It's *YOU* that needs an amendment.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 28, 2005, 12:59:52 PM EDT
Any non-contorted reading of that sentence . . .
- (
Andrew Grygus
)
- (7)
- June 28, 2005, 01:04:21 PM EDT
No.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:07:33 PM EDT
Also...
- (
pwhysall
)
- (5)
- June 28, 2005, 01:13:59 PM EDT
Well, a case could be made . .
- (
Andrew Grygus
)
- (2)
- June 28, 2005, 01:24:52 PM EDT
Re: Well, a case could be made . .
- (
pwhysall
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2005, 07:21:39 PM EDT
I think crew served weapons would not be in order
- (
boxley
)
- June 28, 2005, 07:42:39 PM EDT
you can own artillery, and use it on special occasions
- (
boxley
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2005, 01:42:51 PM EDT
My uncle has a "3 pounder".
- (
Another Scott
)
- June 28, 2005, 02:07:35 PM EDT
You're reaching.
- (
admin
)
- (32)
- June 28, 2005, 12:57:55 PM EDT
So, I, the ENTIRE legal community and the USSC are wrong.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (31)
- June 28, 2005, 01:00:23 PM EDT
Entire Legal community? hardly
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (6)
- June 28, 2005, 01:03:08 PM EDT
*blam* *VRRRROooooommmmm....*
-NT
- (
pwhysall
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:04:33 PM EDT
Find a respected law journal that argues the NRA's position.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (4)
- June 28, 2005, 01:08:02 PM EDT
Lawyers have a very obvious agenda.
- (
Andrew Grygus
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2005, 01:20:51 PM EDT
I never suggested they did.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:25:50 PM EDT
US Justice Department? Oh you said respected :-)
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:23:32 PM EDT
howabout the 1857 supreme court?
- (
boxley
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:49:49 PM EDT
Miller was about *concealed* weapons.
-NT
- (
admin
)
- (23)
- June 28, 2005, 01:19:37 PM EDT
Transport of a sawed-off shotgun.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (22)
- June 28, 2005, 01:24:37 PM EDT
Er, yes. A concealed weapon. Your point?
-NT
- (
admin
)
- June 28, 2005, 01:48:56 PM EDT
And you'll notice
- (
bepatient
)
- (4)
- June 28, 2005, 02:09:06 PM EDT
You, Scott and the NRA, right?
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (3)
- June 28, 2005, 03:04:46 PM EDT
I'm not an NRA member.
- (
bepatient
)
- (2)
- June 28, 2005, 04:46:59 PM EDT
See my last. You are, once again, wrong. ;0)
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2005, 05:17:11 PM EDT
Oh, I don't think so.
- (
bepatient
)
- June 28, 2005, 10:11:57 PM EDT
apparently you can roll your own machine guns now
- (
boxley
)
- (15)
- June 28, 2005, 02:21:11 PM EDT
Don't hold your breath.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (14)
- June 28, 2005, 03:08:37 PM EDT
You realize that was the intent, right?
- (
drewk
)
- (13)
- June 28, 2005, 03:17:47 PM EDT
Wrong. But it's pointless to argue this anymore. ;0)
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2005, 03:53:40 PM EDT
yes you are...and yes it is.
-NT
- (
bepatient
)
- June 28, 2005, 04:49:53 PM EDT
In many ways the whole thing is a Grand Diversion - << \ufffd >>-
- (
Ashton
)
- (10)
- June 28, 2005, 05:34:52 PM EDT
Not a toughie.
- (
Yendor
)
- June 28, 2005, 05:44:10 PM EDT
heck, the only gun I ever need,,, is your gun
- (
boxley
)
- June 28, 2005, 06:59:07 PM EDT
I should have fled when I had the chance.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 29, 2005, 10:08:52 AM EDT
Follow your pyramid.
- (
bepatient
)
- (6)
- June 29, 2005, 10:33:15 AM EDT
Maslow builds pyramids
- (
Ashton
)
- (5)
- June 29, 2005, 05:23:21 PM EDT
ROFL!
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- June 29, 2005, 05:25:00 PM EDT
Point well ignored, I see.
-NT
- (
bepatient
)
- (3)
- June 29, 2005, 09:30:32 PM EDT
Hardly missed. Different priorities on my pyramid.
-NT
- (
Ashton
)
- (2)
- June 30, 2005, 12:09:20 AM EDT
I keep forgetting
- (
bepatient
)
- (1)
- June 30, 2005, 01:56:09 PM EDT
I keep remembering
- (
Ashton
)
- June 30, 2005, 04:14:55 PM EDT
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