Yes, I saw the tape

Post #210,977 by ben_tilly 6/12/05 12:46:50 AM Reply	Yes, I saw the tape I find it amusing how, when I agree with you, you can be complimentary about how I think about things. But when I disagree you can't believe what an idiot I'm being. Random clue time: I didn't change between those two scenarios. The thought process that I use when you agree with me matches the one that I use when you disagree. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #210,979 by Ashton 6/12/05 3:54:57 AM Reply	Does that process work with false data? ie Why Yes, you are nothing if not consistent. One might even interpolate among the sequential steps (?) Now, about that personal experiment with a series of pulsed Tazer shocks: Probability is, it won't kill you. Right? Your guesstimate suggested too, that it wasn't likely.. All That Bad - - from what you know. Right? So then, somewhere between that foolish consistency/hobgoblin of small minds, etc. and The Scientific Method -- why not refine/reconfirm your 'knowledge'? I said - I'll pay the rental. But not for the resuscitation, you understand? BTW: Last guesstimates I saw, maybe early '80s re actual current across the heart itself, deemed that the lethal threshold, was in the tens of microamperes with a Gaussian maybe up to a milliampere - for the hardiest of souls.. Dunno what 2005 accumulated experience suggests. And, of course - the resistance paths / volume resistivity vary greatly among people: at skin surface; vary quite less once you're inside there with all the nice ions ready to conduct electrons. (Will pay extra for the video. ;-)
Post #211,018 by ben_tilly 6/12/05 3:33:31 PM Reply	Obviously so My mind works with the information that it has. I do the best I can, but at some point I'm GIGO, just like any other form of processing. About your joke suggestion, I don't think so. While I'm very confident that I would survive, I'm also confident that it would hurt, and I don't particularly like pain. However it is safe enough that a standard part of taser training is to shock the trainee. So while I have no inclination to take part in your experiment, many thousands of police officers have - probably including the two in the video. And that concludes this thread for me. My position is clear, and you seem unlikely to ever be convinced that it is reasonable. Furthermore you don't even seem to be trying to change my mind. So I'll let you produce your next round of complaining about my narrowness of thinking and foolish consistency, then this conversation will drop. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #211,019 by broomberg 6/12/05 3:36:42 PM Reply	OK, who taking bets? I say with enough effort, we can force Ben to respond. NO COLLUSION WITH BEN ALLOWED!
Post #211,043 by Ashton 6/12/05 6:33:12 PM Reply	I decline response ..since it's apparent that you would say Anything in order -somehow- to elicit reply. :-\ufffd

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