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New Plan to use it for 10 items, then get back to me
Their reported fraud rate is 1/10,000. There is reason to believe that this figure is somewhat low. Other shopping channels have a shrinkage of about 1-2%. I personally doubt that eBay's is that high. (People are generally more willing to steal from big companies than other individuals...)

Let's say that their actual fraud rate is 1%. Suppose that you get a 10% better deal from eBay than you do elsewhere. (Odds are that that's slightly pessimistic as well...)

After 10 times you've probably not been defrauded, and if you have then you've almost certainly not been defrauded twice. (If a 1% fraud rate, the odds that it has happened once are about 10%, and twice are below 0.2%.) Even if you've been defrauded once, you're still even. If you haven't been defrauded, you're ahead.

This is the same kind of numbers game that is used as the basis of insurance. But on eBay the numbers are favourable enough that it takes very little time to get to the point where it is worthwhile.

This is before taking into account the things that eBay does to try to make buying through them a more pleasant experience. You can also choose to minimize your risk in various ways, for instance you can only buy from eBay sellers who've done a lot of selling. (Lots of people run businesses there, and so you get a *lot* of feedback on them.)

If you don't want to use eBay, that is your choice. But not doing it because you're scared of being robbed is being penny wise and pound foolish. The risk really is worth it.

Cheers,
Ben

PS Disclaimer. I work for eBay, though in a capacity that has nothing to do with their auction site.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Latest example
Need a minipci combo card for a Thinkpad laptop. I could buy it from a "reputable" dealer...such as IBM. Their price is $259 without taxes or shipping.

I just purchased this (yet to arrive) from a gentleman on ebay for the landed cost of $14.99.

If I get screwed on this deal. I can try it 16 more times before I'm up to the price I would pay from the "reputable" store.


If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New No real problems here either.
I've bought computer stuff, inexpensive collectables, used cell phones, PDAs, posters, and some jewelry. Everything went pretty well. Some of the cell phones weren't exactly as described, but they were close enough (e.g. a label was missing). It wasn't worth the hassle to complain.

The jewelry was something that didn't quite meet my overblown expectations. But it was one of those "if you think it's too good to be true, it probably is" things. The pearls are very nice, but not quite the fabulous things described in the listing. The vendor (who had thousands of positive responses going back several years) closed up shop before I even had a chance to leave feedback. But I don't think I was cheated.

The vast majority of the things I've purchased on eBay have exceeded my expectations. Most people who sell stuff there really do want you to be happy.

A friend in Ohio bought a car in California on eBay. It took several months for everything to be completed (he had to arrange transportation), but it went pretty well. He bought another in Georgia that went just about perfectly. Greg [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=125618|bought ] one too.

eBay's like any store in this respect: You need to investigate the purchase before you complete the transaction. If you don't feel comfortable about it, don't do it. But I've felt better buying stuff on eBay than the few times I've bought stuff at the local Wal-Mart.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Hehehe
...But I've felt better buying stuff on eBay than the few times I've bought stuff at the local Wal-Mart.


I don't shop at Walmart, either. ;)

Brenda



"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
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         Nasty - (jbrabeck)
         And something for the serious Star Wars collecter... - (Steven A S) - (77)
             Re: And something for the serious Star Wars collecter... - (Nightowl) - (76)
                 Return of the Suck? - (pwhysall) - (75)
                     Sorry, no can do - (Nightowl) - (74)
                         Sell 'em on eBay. - (pwhysall) - (73)
                             Wow, Peter, you really have a hate on. - (inthane-chan) - (9)
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                                 It just gets on my tits. - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                     Re: It just gets on my tits. - (Nightowl) - (6)
                                         This is what I mean. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                             Not R-rated - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                 I know that. - (pwhysall) - (3)
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                                                         Yes, I miss sarcasm too. - (admin) - (1)
                                                             :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                             I don't trust E-bay - (Nightowl) - (62)
                                 So he's not going to do the final 3 episodes? - (Silverlock) - (10)
                                     It is a 9 part series. - (folkert)
                                     According to Lucas, no - (Nightowl)
                                     Didn't I hear something about a TV series? - (ChrisR) - (7)
                                         You heard right - (Nightowl) - (6)
                                             It's not very sadistic or violent. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                 That just means there's no sex involved. -NT - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                                     what! Im not going then :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                             We all know that Evil will triumph... - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                 Funny, you don't look Druish..... -NT - (n3jja) - (1)
                                                     I knew it, I'm surrounded by Assholes! -NT - (Steven A S)
                                 Why don't you trust eBay? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (46)
                                     Well, it's simple - (Nightowl) - (44)
                                         The risk is worthwhile -NT - (ben_tilly) - (24)
                                             For some, maybe. - (Nightowl) - (23)
                                                 *splutter* - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                     It's not all about John - (Nightowl)
                                                 You infer that ebay isn't a reputable site. - (Steve Lowe) - (14)
                                                     I've never had an issue. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                         My brother recently bought a bass guitar. - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                                             Must be nice to have big hands... - (jb4)
                                                     Re: You infer that ebay isn't a reputable site. - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                                         I don't know why your brother got "ripped off" - (jb4) - (8)
                                                             Re: I don't know why your brother got "ripped off" - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                                 Your brother did it to himself, then. - (admin) - (6)
                                                                     I use Postal Money Orders. - (n3jja) - (5)
                                                                         That's what I did before I finally got a PayPal account. -NT - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                             Had that once. Got rid of it. - (n3jja) - (3)
                                                                                 Seems pretty painless, mostly. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                     The purchaser gets "insurance"... - (jb4)
                                                                                     They charged me to set up that "free" account - (scoenye)
                                                     Naah, she *implies* it. She wants *you* to infer it. HTH! -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                 Plan to use it for 10 items, then get back to me - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                     Latest example - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                         No real problems here either. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                             Hehehe - (Nightowl)
                                                 A bit of history: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     Not that it matters - (Nightowl)
                                         It's got the best privacy and protection policies, IMHO - (pwhysall) - (18)
                                             Selling, maybe - (Nightowl) - (15)
                                                 He sent money? - (jbrabeck)
                                                 Cash or Equivalent? - (bepatient) - (13)
                                                     Yep, he made a mistake - (Nightowl) - (12)
                                                         What's annoying... - (pwhysall) - (11)
                                                             Kinda like - (jbrabeck) - (8)
                                                                 Eggzackly. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                                 It's quite thyme, though. And rather rosemary. HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                                                     Didn't know what you were talking about - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                                                                         But now you've orphaned my half of Scarborough Fair! :-) - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                             :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                             Partly sage ... - (jbrabeck)
                                                                             Nahhh.. yer just good at parsleying the doggerel here :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                     Re: It's quite thyme, though. And rather rosemary. HTH! :-) - (Nightowl)
                                                             Re: What's annoying... - (Nightowl)
                                                             Suggestion... (new thread) - (jb4)
                                             It's quite simple, really: Brenda is even worse than your... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                 "After all, it isn't only not just the words, isn't it?"-HN -NT - (Another Scott)
                                     Teehee - (pwhysall)
                                 But, eBay fights crime! - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                                     And so do stupid criminals! - (bionerd) - (2)
                                         Don't be so critical - (hnick) - (1)
                                             'Common'? - why.. it's a meeja-sponsored Growth Industry! -NT - (Ashton)

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