Post #207,273
5/13/05 2:21:03 PM
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School regrets dog vivisection
[link|http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=8487228|http://www.reuters.c...s&storyID=8487228]
SALT LAKE CITY (Reuters) - A Utah high school expressed regret on Thursday for the vivisection of a stray dog as part of a biology lesson.
Some parents and students complained after a substitute biology teacher at Gunnison Valley High School took eight girls, aged 16 and 17, to a local veterinary clinic on Tuesday to watch abdominal dissection on a dog under general anesthetic. The lesson was aimed at teaching students about the digestive system.
"It just makes me sick and I don't think this should go on anywhere and nobody is learning from it," student Sierra Sears told local TV channel ABC 4 news.
Donald Hill, assistant superintendent of the South Sanpete School District, said: "This shouldn't happen again. Our schools will not participate in this again. We don't condone this."
Vet Tom Anderson said the incident, reported in local television and newspapers, had been blown out of proportion.
"It was about a three-minute procedure involving abdominal surgery. It was done under general anesthetic. It was an aggressive and abandoned dog. It was not fit to be adopted," Anderson said. The dog was put to sleep after the procedure.
The school said permission had been sought and obtained from parents of the students, and that two students had exercised their right to opt out of the visit.
"All they did was view it. They did not remove or dissect any parts. It was not barbaric," said assistant principal Trevor Powell. "(But) we will have to find a better way next time."
It was not clear what action, if any, would be taken against the substitute teacher, who has not been named.
--------- I dont see what why folks are getting their knickers in a bunch. IMO, this was an age-appropriate lesson. The students simply observed. The dog was going to be put to sleep anyway. The dog wasnt in any pain. If this were a frog or rat people wouldnt care.
As an undergrad at MSU I did plenty of live dissections and I was just a year or two older than the students in this article. Granted, it's not for the squemish, but is was a great learning experience- much better than dissecting discolored, shruken, pickled animals. There was nothing traumatic about it. And with live dissections you get the added bonus of learning about physiology as well as anatomy.
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Post #207,278
5/13/05 2:30:15 PM
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I'm with you...
But more so. Anyone who grew up on a farm has seen worse.
In the same vein I also think that kids should be taken to a meat-packing plant so that they understand where their burgers come from. I think that it is rank hypocrisy that everyone knows that we're eating animals, but nobody wants kids to see it.
Cheers, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #207,293
5/13/05 4:29:30 PM
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Are the LRPDs random? This is the one that showed up,
Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #207,294
5/13/05 4:31:11 PM
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But it would get hot and attract cats and...
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Post #207,300
5/13/05 5:06:45 PM
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What can I do with calf feet? They've got plenty of those.
Random maybe...prescient YES!
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #207,311
5/13/05 5:53:39 PM
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My LRPD was:
"He saw Beans. Lots of beans"
So the LRPD sees both sides of the issue! ;-)
(And on the page where I made this post the LRPD states: " Prepare to eat a lot of ethically grown organic lentils, imbued with ley-line energy." Random? You decide...)
jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #207,312
5/13/05 5:57:06 PM
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He saw beans. Lots of beans. - ?!?!?
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Post #207,369
5/14/05 4:03:05 AM
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Re: He saw beans. Lots of beans. - ?!?!?
That's a line of lyrics from the first Magical Trevor flash movie. Remember him? :) \r\n
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Post #207,370
5/14/05 4:16:49 AM
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Re: He saw beans. Lots of beans. - ?!?!?
[link|http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/37/|http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/37/]
Peter [link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu Linux] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
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Post #207,374
5/14/05 8:31:43 AM
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"Yeah, Yeah."
:-)
I was just surprised that I got the same LRPDism as the one JB was commenting on. Sorry it wasn't clear.
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #207,378
5/14/05 9:09:08 AM
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Powered by invisible sky pixies!
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #207,338
5/13/05 9:05:55 PM
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And mine "Behold the power of cheese." :)
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #207,340
5/13/05 9:12:27 PM
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You'll find the Pope Cake under the "Food" Section.
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Post #207,348
5/13/05 10:19:48 PM
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Bring bananas.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #207,577
5/16/05 4:53:35 AM
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You know, "The dingo ate my baby".
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Post #207,314
5/13/05 6:07:39 PM
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ObLRPD: Spyingwithdroids on sheep.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #207,346
5/13/05 10:16:03 PM
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Talking meat.
Peter [link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu Linux] [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal] [link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
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Post #207,349
5/13/05 10:47:25 PM
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This lets me combine my two great loves - technology and
This lets me combine my two great loves - technology and biscuits.
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