Post #207,057
5/12/05 2:43:22 AM
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The inevitable offspring
First there was [link|http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/|Greasemonkey], which allowed you to write your own JavaScript and apply it, automatically, to any particular site or sites you wanted. Then came [link|http://www.karmatics.com/aardvark/|Aardvark], which let you modify a page as you viewed it. \r\n\r\n Now their powers have combined to produce... [link|http://platypus.mozdev.org/|Platypus], which lets you modify a page as you're looking at it, and will automatically create and save a Greasmonkey script to enforce your alterations the next time you come back. \r\n\r\n And to think just a few months ago people were throwing fits about how Google's AutoLink put too much power in users' hands... --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
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Post #207,059
5/12/05 6:50:05 AM
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Isn't the difference that with Platypus, Greasemonkey,
and Aardvark YOU are making the changes and controlling the flow, while with Autolink, the actions taken were "behind the scene" where you had NO control over the actions taken?
Wouldn't the first three equate to an advanced method of setting font, color, etc. per website?
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Post #207,069
5/12/05 9:05:01 AM
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Not really.
Considering that various bits of AutoLink are configurable, and it only does stuff when you explicitly tell it to. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
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Post #207,410
5/14/05 2:43:10 PM
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No, it's different
but not for technical reasons. Simply put, autolink is done by a third party, while greasemonkey is done by the reader.
That makes all the difference in the world; I'm allowed to mark up my copy of (for example) The Lord Of The Rings as much as I want. If someone else does it to my copy, that's a different thing completely.
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Post #207,461
5/15/05 4:31:11 AM
5/15/05 4:31:33 AM
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No.
If I want to ask my friend who's a Tolkien scholar (I have a friend who's a Tolkien scholar, actually) to annotate in the margins of my copy of LOTR, that's perfectly OK. So why can't I ask Google to annotate a page for me? They haven't forced it on me, so it's still my choice. --\r\nYou cooin' with my bird?
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Post #208,830
5/27/05 10:54:03 AM
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Your point notwithstanding, it's still not the same.
That's what they call a red herring, son.
Also, there's a huge difference between taking your copy (which you've already had a chance to see unaltered) and asking someone to annotate, and having it done for you before you've had a chance to see the unaltered content as the author intended.
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Post #208,839
5/27/05 2:20:48 PM
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That's the best point (IMO)
When you see the page, is it clear what the original page said and what Google added?
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Post #209,306
6/1/05 6:02:07 AM
6/3/05 8:01:32 AM
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Red herring?
Also, there's a huge difference between taking your copy (which you've already had a chance to see unaltered) and asking someone to annotate, and having it done for you before you've had a chance to see the unaltered content as the author intended.
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