Japan makes a lot of very fine sports cars.

doesn't actually want to be made to think'

Fellow curmudgeon, Hail! Further endearing -

Setright began his working life as a lawyer but 'hated it' and 'if you don't like what you are doing you should stop forthwith.' So he did ...

And -

When I ask what he thinks of the cars on the market today, Setright replies that they are 'frightfully boring' due to a 'convergence of fashion which forces all manufactures into same mould because they are all addressing the same multitude of banal and unintelligent twits who are their principle customers.'

{chortle}

Well, I possess little lore on the CBX - it was not of interest because of the Weight (as noted below). But thanks for yer googlefu - Setright is a treat!

moi

PS - Bristol Club eh?
Well then, love to be a kibitzer at the pub with him and [link|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/110808094683927230/| Mr. Farago]
I mean.. Really!

Wouldn't you? :-0

Prediction: anyone trying to Use those HP, torque specs - will soon be a spec(k).

Seems to be primarily a sculpture ~ the way I think of Hogs of all stripes, though some of those have paintwork from masters.

But then, we handling snobs - with a clean sheet of paper - would likely opt for 325-350# max, and whatever exotic alloys get you there with an adequate say, 5#/HP, including the ummm rider.

Fortunately, I lack the funds to proceed from this formula, but I recall in the Norton days.. one morning's lovely ride on a new Manx 30M. From that (and other comparative rides on lighter machines of the era) I concluded that WEIGHT is always BAD for complex maneuvers of any kind. And since cycling is about your moving your CG relative to the machine's: I called that an earliest QED.

(Bonus: on a lighter machine, a less than world-class rider (who likely got first moto at age 3) -- your chances of surviving an error are lots better than on any behemoth.)

But the Monsters are sorta fun, except the Harley Monsters - lineage (like your example, too) from Trucks; however tarted-up, they remain lousy-clearance 2-wheel-Trucks. Entirely appropriate that these would snare the new Murican class of 'motorcyclists' - fondly remembering their (father's?) 5000# Buicks.

I think.. {sob} It's Over.
No (few) places left to play.
Oh well.

Post #202,726 by pwhysall 4/10/05 5:28:00 PM Reply	Japan makes a lot of very fine sports cars. These are not them. [link\|http://tanetane92.web.infoseek.co.jp/20050116tas2.html\|http://tanetane92.we...20050116tas2.html] Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #202,727 by Yendor 4/10/05 5:29:58 PM Reply	Do I even want to know what "Yonky Mate!" means? -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #202,728 by pwhysall 4/10/05 5:31:29 PM Reply	It's certainly how I think of you. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #202,752 by Yendor 4/10/05 8:32:34 PM Reply	No, that's "Yankee". -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #202,733 by Another Scott 4/10/05 5:48:24 PM Reply	Can't wait to see the 2006 Minayo and 2006 Sexy Crown.
Post #202,739 by cforde 4/10/05 6:36:20 PM Reply	that's too much ugly in one place Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #202,742 by Ashton 4/10/05 7:02:25 PM Reply	Oh___Noes!__-y BODY. {Ugh} KITS. !! {Urp} Gotta pass this one on! I notice, where I drop in for general maint. info on my car - the definition of 'ricers'. (Fortunately, few of these drop in re my particular model, for which there Aren't many such hideous monstrosities available: except a couple from .. Yes .. Japan! Whew.) In US, ricers are the folk what smear decals all over with BIG silly R's, blue-LEDs underneath, flame jobs, yet.. rarely anything ever so extreme as THIS melange from Hell. My take has been - that these abortions are the wordless proof of the huge chasm 'twixt, Hey! LookAtMe-PLEASE!! / and 'Art' (or a desire to correct some manufacturing brain-fart, say with something actually mo-bettah) {Shudder}
Post #202,744 by CRConrad 4/10/05 7:09:54 PM Reply	They're obviously NOT kits:All different, ergo each handmade
Post #202,747 by Ashton 4/10/05 7:26:24 PM Reply	No, not ALL - Some Are kits: have seen them elsewhere. And of course - which decal you put where - is a 'handmade' collage. The One-Offs are pretty evident, I'd thought was evident.
Post #202,806 by CRConrad 4/11/05 2:36:11 AM Reply	Yeah, OK, true. But, hey, yagotta give extra points... ...for creativity -- 'coz many of those kits are apparently mounted on a different model of car than the one they were designed for! :-) Also, everybody, don't miss that little "BACK" link at the bottom; it leads to a whole passel more of pages just like that one. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #202,808 by drewk 4/11/05 2:47:58 AM Reply	Damn you I skipped the link the first time. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #202,809 by drewk 4/11/05 2:58:04 AM Reply	Check out the bikes Ashton will start out liking [link\|http://tanetane92.web.infoseek.co.jp/motorcycle.html\|this page]. Then he will see the two at the bottom. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #202,816 by Another Scott 4/11/05 7:25:42 AM Reply	Dig those air horn trumpets. :-)
Post #202,954 by CRConrad 4/12/05 1:51:28 AM Reply	At first, I thought you meant those old white Hondas... ...just above the bottom (in all ways) ones. I think those are 70s police bikes. Anyone able to tell what the signage says -- Wade, Thane...? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #202,924 by Ashton 4/11/05 9:39:52 PM Reply	Yes and {erp} yes. Some pukka racers there, under all the &*%%^ ad logos. Reminds me - there was a (commercial not factory) Honda CBX for a few years - a straight-6! (transverse) == wide sucker. Saw one on the Sunday Morning Ride\ufffd, about the time I was breaking in the Kawa KZ-550. Too heavy and wide to handle, but straight-line Gs. Fer the early Yuppies, I guess. Ah well.. there are fewer and fewer roads on which to play + dumber and more cell-fone insouciant drivers. {sigh} Its. Over. {sob} Dead. Parrot.
Post #202,929 by Another Scott 4/11/05 10:27:28 PM Reply	The CBX had a reputation for frying the inner cylinders. IIRC, [link\|http://www.granta.com/features/2004/12/setright\|LJK Setright] at Car and Driver had one and would occasionally mention it. But he seemed to have a soft spot for European bikes. <googlie goo...> [link\|http://www.cbxclub.com/setright.html\|Here] is a 1980 piece about the CBX. He too had a rather strange (to these American eyes) prose style. Hmmmm... ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #203,137 by Ashton 4/13/05 2:23:02 AM 4/13/05 2:33:02 AM Reply	Lovely: 'the average reader of a car magazine or book doesn't actually want to be made to think' Fellow curmudgeon, Hail! Further endearing - Setright began his working life as a lawyer but 'hated it' and 'if you don't like what you are doing you should stop forthwith.' So he did ... And - When I ask what he thinks of the cars on the market today, Setright replies that they are 'frightfully boring' due to a 'convergence of fashion which forces all manufactures into same mould because they are all addressing the same multitude of banal and unintelligent twits who are their principle customers.' {chortle} Well, I possess little lore on the CBX - it was not of interest because of the Weight (as noted below). But thanks for yer googlefu - Setright is a treat! moi PS - Bristol Club eh? Well then, love to be a kibitzer at the pub with him and [link\|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/110808094683927230/\| Mr. Farago] I mean.. Really! Wouldn't you? :-0 Edited by Ashton April 13, 2005, 02:33:02 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #203,159 by Another Scott 4/13/05 7:37:18 AM Reply	Yup. Writers like him are treasures. Thanks for the pointer to Farago. When I asked if the odd sound under throttle indicated some kind of problem, the owner told me to drop the subject. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #202,955 by CRConrad 4/12/05 2:00:05 AM Reply	A couple of similar bikes from about the same time: The [link\|http://images.google.com/images?q=Kawasaki+Z1300\|Kawasaki Z1300] and the [link\|http://images.google.com/images?q=Benelli+900+Sei\|Benelli 900 Sei]. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #203,049 by Steven A S 4/12/05 3:26:08 PM Reply	That's nothin' Now [link\|http://www.bosshoss.com/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502&cid=773319550.442242.698341\|this] is a bike ~~~)-Steven---- "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..." General George S. Patton
Post #203,051 by Another Scott 4/12/05 3:31:29 PM Reply	Nice. ~ 130 mile cruising range. Fill up every 2 hours....
Post #203,113 by drewk 4/12/05 11:32:04 PM Reply	Screw that ... every 1.5 hours max === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #203,136 by Ashton 4/13/05 2:05:55 AM Reply	Mmm OK: 13 mpg 1300# Hummer caricature. Prediction: anyone trying to Use those HP, torque specs - will soon be a spec(k). Seems to be primarily a sculpture ~ the way I think of Hogs of all stripes, though some of those have paintwork from masters. But then, we handling snobs - with a clean sheet of paper - would likely opt for 325-350# max, and whatever exotic alloys get you there with an adequate say, 5#/HP, including the ummm rider. Fortunately, I lack the funds to proceed from this formula, but I recall in the Norton days.. one morning's lovely ride on a new Manx 30M. From that (and other comparative rides on lighter machines of the era) I concluded that WEIGHT is always BAD for complex maneuvers of any kind. And since cycling is about your moving your CG relative to the machine's: I called that an earliest QED. (Bonus: on a lighter machine, a less than world-class rider (who likely got first moto at age 3) -- your chances of surviving an error are lots better than on any behemoth.) But the Monsters are sorta fun, except the Harley Monsters - lineage (like your example, too) from Trucks; however tarted-up, they remain lousy-clearance 2-wheel-Trucks. Entirely appropriate that these would snare the new Murican class of 'motorcyclists' - fondly remembering their (father's?) 5000# Buicks. I think.. {sob} It's Over. No (few) places left to play. Oh well.
Post #202,743 by CRConrad 4/10/05 7:08:22 PM Reply	You some kind of Yank general? I'm shocked and awed... And curious: How the Heck do you find these things?!? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #202,745 by boxley 4/10/05 7:12:53 PM Reply	www.pikey.com :-) All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #202,749 by tuberculosis 4/10/05 8:19:59 PM Reply	Ick! What's with the giant protruding cow catchers? "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #202,755 by admin 4/10/05 9:25:45 PM Reply	Sun decks. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #202,784 by pwhysall 4/11/05 12:46:20 AM Reply	Nonono. Where DID you think sun-dried tomatoes get sun-dried? Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #202,880 by admin 4/11/05 1:41:55 PM Reply	Er... on the sun decks, obviously. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #202,953 by tuberculosis 4/12/05 1:18:23 AM Reply	They have nothing on American Classics (new thread) Created as new thread #202952 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=202952\|They have nothing on American Classics] "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush

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