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Post #202,481 by ben_tilly 4/8/05 2:02:08 PM Reply	I'd expect the opposite Decreased mobility reduces suburbs leads to increased population density and therefore less space per person. Less space makes bulky items less attractive. I'll bet those $3600 screens are less popular in NYC than in LA. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #202,491 by tuberculosis 4/8/05 2:27:35 PM Reply	Probably talking about different points on the same curve It has been shown that when fuel prices rise and/or employment gets tight (recent couple years of depression), people begin to shift disposable income to home entertainment options (video games, dvds, etc) from things like vacations, restaurants, and movie tickets. So I think that will be the first trend, but it will likely be transient because, as you note, eventually they will have to downsize their living space as well and then small goodies will supplant large goodies. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #202,494 by SpiceWare 4/8/05 2:33:22 PM Reply	I think the big screens will still sell but they'll be plasma and LCD that hang on the wall. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #202,498 by jb4 4/8/05 2:43:31 PM Reply	I dunno about that... ..plasma TVs are horrendous energy hogs.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #202,503 by SpiceWare 4/8/05 3:11:00 PM Reply	LCDs driven by white LEDs Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #202,495 by Another Scott 4/8/05 2:35:52 PM Reply	Could argue the other way as well. $3600 flat screens that you can mount on the wall (or project onto a wall) take less volume in a room than a 30" tube sitting on a stand. So they might become more popular. Whether expensive, giant TVs become more or less popular as oil prices increase is a bit of an open question. Especially since one would expect them to become cheaper over time even if fuel prices increase (the manufacturing plant costs would be amortized, etc.), and since HDTV is eventually going to be the major broadcast format in the US. Cheers, Scott.

The Long Emergency - (tuberculosis) - (47) - April 8, 2005, 12:24:57 AM EDT

Heh. - (ubernostrum) - April 8, 2005, 01:30:14 AM EDT

I'm not convinced - (ben_tilly) - (7) - April 8, 2005, 01:44:51 AM EDT

I think I'm glad my folks live in rural WA - (FuManChu) - April 8, 2005, 01:50:24 AM EDT

Agree on the agriculture angle - (tuberculosis) - (5) - April 8, 2005, 12:46:19 PM EDT

Interview on NPR - (Arkadiy) - (3) - April 8, 2005, 01:08:30 PM EDT

Not a particularly useful number - (tuberculosis) - (1) - April 8, 2005, 01:15:30 PM EDT

The farm sounded smallish - a family establishment - (Arkadiy) - April 8, 2005, 01:17:11 PM EDT

How big's the "farm"? - (Andrew Grygus) - April 8, 2005, 01:21:32 PM EDT

Some numbers. - (Another Scott) - April 8, 2005, 10:50:15 PM EDT

This is the same "small is beautiful" crap . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (21) - April 8, 2005, 03:27:55 AM EDT

Which 75% is that? -NT - (andread) - (19) - April 8, 2005, 09:18:05 AM EDT

That's for economics to decide. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - April 8, 2005, 10:23:23 AM EDT

How about listing your 75% -NT - (andread) - (15) - April 8, 2005, 11:33:32 AM EDT

I am already about 50% of average American . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (14) - April 8, 2005, 01:07:50 PM EDT

Adaptable to other power sources. - (JayMehaffey) - (13) - April 8, 2005, 02:07:32 PM EDT

Very, very high costs - (ben_tilly) - (12) - April 8, 2005, 02:31:19 PM EDT

The future of shipping - (tuberculosis) - (11) - April 8, 2005, 03:06:19 PM EDT

I have recollection of a Japanese freighter like that. - (Another Scott) - April 8, 2005, 07:38:58 PM EDT

It is natural that German interest in sail continues . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - April 8, 2005, 06:04:32 PM EDT

More successful than everybody except the US - (tuberculosis) - (4) - April 8, 2005, 06:31:10 PM EDT

Cargo capacity? Reliability? - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - April 8, 2005, 07:34:20 PM EDT

Stats are here - (tuberculosis) - (2) - April 8, 2005, 09:46:35 PM EDT

Preussen was rammed by an English channel packet . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - April 8, 2005, 10:37:26 PM EDT

Thanks, I've got a new sailing topic to read up on -NT - (tuberculosis) - April 9, 2005, 12:03:02 AM EDT

even more interest in lighter than aircraft - (boxley) - (3) - April 8, 2005, 10:11:03 PM EDT

Here's a wacky twist on that - (tuberculosis) - (2) - April 9, 2005, 12:07:13 AM EDT

Old friend on that page - (drewk) - (1) - April 9, 2005, 12:39:52 AM EDT

Yup, Doug Marker - (Ashton) - April 9, 2005, 05:11:37 AM EDT

Re: Which 75% is that? - (SpiceWare) - (1) - April 8, 2005, 03:09:41 PM EDT

Info on white LEDs - (SpiceWare) - April 16, 2005, 12:42:30 PM EDT

Just because people have been predicting doom forever... - (ben_tilly) - April 8, 2005, 01:58:37 PM EDT

It depends - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - April 8, 2005, 08:43:02 AM EDT

$5 gasolene = SUVs join dinosaurs. - (Andrew Grygus) - April 8, 2005, 10:22:10 AM EDT

We have hordes of people whose mission in life is to - (Arkadiy) - April 8, 2005, 10:50:24 AM EDT

I dont think it's so terrifying - (bionerd) - (12) - April 8, 2005, 10:15:53 AM EDT

Food is going to be expensive . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (11) - April 8, 2005, 10:37:23 AM EDT

Electronics may go up. - (JayMehaffey) - (10) - April 8, 2005, 10:44:23 AM EDT

Yes, but $3600 'big screens' entertainment centers . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - April 8, 2005, 01:11:05 PM EDT

Actually, I would expect purchases to increase - (tuberculosis) - (6) - April 8, 2005, 01:16:37 PM EDT

I'd expect the opposite - (ben_tilly) - (5) - April 8, 2005, 02:02:08 PM EDT

Probably talking about different points on the same curve - (tuberculosis) - April 8, 2005, 02:27:35 PM EDT

I think the big screens will still sell - (SpiceWare) - (2) - April 8, 2005, 02:33:22 PM EDT

I dunno about that... - (jb4) - (1) - April 8, 2005, 02:43:31 PM EDT

LCDs driven by white LEDs -NT - (SpiceWare) - April 8, 2005, 03:11:00 PM EDT

Could argue the other way as well. - (Another Scott) - April 8, 2005, 02:35:52 PM EDT

Another reason for gadgets. - (static) - (1) - April 10, 2005, 09:55:32 PM EDT

Yes, and their manufacturers used to be totally mystified . - (Andrew Grygus) - April 10, 2005, 11:16:43 PM EDT

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