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New I'm not sure
just what uml has to do with using 'drag and drop' to create a model.

When I was taking the apps course last year, we had to model our applications in uml as an early phase of development. There were tools to do so, but in general I found it faster and easier to just hack out the text definitions anyway in raw uml.

The L stands for Language, and it is in fact a language for creating models, including object models, app module models, or even ER models, let alone using it to model data flow or calls.

I don't see what XML is going to get you except more verbosity.

Edit: that said, I still agree with Peter that pencil and paper are the right first step; uml comes second, and that only if you have other developers on the project with whom you need to communicate protocols and specifications.
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Collapse Edited by jake123 April 1, 2005, 06:20:22 PM EST
I'm not sure
just what uml has to do with using 'drag and drop' to create a model.

When I was taking the apps course last year, we had to model our applications in uml as an early phase of development. There were tools to do so, but in general I found it faster and easier to just hack out the text definitions anyway in raw uml.

The L stands for Language, and it is in fact a language for creating models, including object models, app module models, or even ER models, let alone using it to model data flow or calls.

I don't see what XML is going to get you except more verbosity.
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     Open Source modeling tools. - (mmoffitt) - (25)
         Re: Open Source modeling tools. - (systems)
         Re: Open Source modeling tools. - (pwhysall) - (20)
             Heh. That's my preference. - (mmoffitt) - (19)
                 So, use those - (jake123) - (18)
                     Max(cost): buy a new scanner/printer - (FuManChu) - (17)
                         I like it:) -NT - (jake123)
                         Re: Max(cost): buy a new scanner/printer - (systems) - (15)
                             I'd suggest using uml - (jake123) - (10)
                                 Re: I'd suggest using uml - (systems) - (9)
                                     What exactly do you mean by "model" here? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                                         Re: What exactly do you mean by "model" here? - (systems) - (6)
                                             If you want to have a diagram, - (Arkadiy)
                                             Low-tech approach - (drewk) - (4)
                                                 Re: Low-tech approach - (dws) - (3)
                                                     UML's good for docs - (jake123) - (2)
                                                         UML is good at showing you where you screwed up - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                             I can see how that goes - (jake123)
                                     I'm not sure - (jake123)
                             Models are only as good as their specs - (admin)
                             Holy... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                 Re: Holy... - (systems)
                                 I don't KNOW it was humor - (broomberg)
         I wrote my own - (tuberculosis) - (2)
             Object Role Modeling - (systems) - (1)
                 Same old same old - (tuberculosis)

I killed quite a few of my test rabbits when I first learned it.
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