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Post #201,428 by jb4 3/31/05 11:53:37 AM Reply	Maybe not in your mind probably becuase you have one, and ar enot afraid to use it. But for those in Washington, they most assuredly are the same thing. Why else, for example, would shitferbraind Rummy try to prosecute both Afganistan and Iraq on the cheap? Why wouldn't the US bomb Hanoi? why was there a Grenada? I can name that tune in two words: Police. Action. QED jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #201,451 by Another Scott 3/31/05 1:45:01 PM Reply	Eh? Nit. Why wouldn't the US bomb Hanoi? Um, the US [link\|http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1224-04.htm\|did] bomb Hanoi. Do you mean Pyong Yang or something? I can think of several things that you might have been trying to say there, but it might be better for you to clarify what you meant. Cheers, Scott.
Post #201,540 by jb4 4/1/05 10:49:22 AM Reply	IIRC... One of the main points of contention between the military (who, all differences aside, really did want to win the "war") and the politicos was that the US forces were enjoined from bombing Hanoi...or at least parts of Hanoi that would have put severe pressure on the North. The Military wanted to leverl the place...non-nuclearly, of course, but simply to reduce it to a picture resembling Dresden or Hamburg, so as to break the "enemy". The politicians would not allow that, so we ended up with what we got. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

Bill Tierney on torture - (dmcarls) - (38) - March 29, 2005, 09:34:44 AM EST

Interesting piece. Thanks! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - March 29, 2005, 09:58:04 AM EST

"But are we litigating this war or fighting it?" - (Arkadiy) - (36) - March 29, 2005, 10:01:05 AM EST

The real question - (jake123) - (14) - March 29, 2005, 11:25:57 AM EST

There are two questions here - (Arkadiy) - (8) - March 29, 2005, 11:37:13 AM EST

And Bin Laden is, of course, why we have taken over Iraq. -NT - (imric) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 11:42:44 AM EST

No, we did it for oil. -NT - (Arkadiy) - March 29, 2005, 11:44:31 AM EST

Bin Laden can say what he likes. - (pwhysall) - (5) - March 29, 2005, 11:53:45 AM EST

You can say what you like. - (Arkadiy) - (4) - March 29, 2005, 11:57:12 AM EST

What's that got to do with the price of cheese? -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 29, 2005, 12:01:52 PM EST

Bin Laden has an ambition to be the Emir - (Arkadiy) - (2) - March 29, 2005, 12:05:26 PM EST

The "Third Chechen War" - (jake123) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 12:09:42 PM EST

Grrr... - (Arkadiy) - March 29, 2005, 12:24:04 PM EST

I think it's more like piracy. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 29, 2005, 11:38:32 AM EST

So, when do we see a letter of marque? - (jake123) - (3) - March 29, 2005, 12:11:03 PM EST

Dunno. That's a very good point. - (Another Scott) - March 29, 2005, 12:55:58 PM EST

you have one, they are called contractors - (boxley) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 06:15:25 PM EST

Like the British privateers harrying the Spanish Main. - (pwhysall) - March 29, 2005, 06:18:25 PM EST

Damn right - (ben_tilly) - March 29, 2005, 12:11:58 PM EST

Have to disagree on that.... - (Simon_Jester) - (19) - March 29, 2005, 06:11:12 PM EST

No, there is plenty of support for - (Arkadiy) - (18) - March 31, 2005, 09:19:36 AM EST

I disagree - (jake123) - (7) - March 31, 2005, 09:26:48 AM EST

"Going after bikn Laden" - (Arkadiy) - (6) - March 31, 2005, 09:38:07 AM EST

Sorry, you seem to be forgetting something - (jake123) - March 31, 2005, 09:50:50 AM EST

Sorry, you seem to be forgetting something - (jb4) - (4) - March 31, 2005, 11:15:26 AM EST

Yes - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 31, 2005, 11:19:02 AM EST

Maybe not in your mind - (jb4) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 11:53:37 AM EST

Eh? Nit. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 01:45:01 PM EST

IIRC... - (jb4) - April 1, 2005, 10:49:22 AM EST

I agree - (Silverlock) - (6) - March 31, 2005, 09:37:15 AM EST

My point exactly. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 31, 2005, 09:38:31 AM EST

Nod...point taken... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 11:48:57 AM EST

Wall of tanks across Pakistan? - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 12:08:45 PM EST

Not among the moneyed classes - (jake123) - March 31, 2005, 12:14:31 PM EST

Define succesful - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 10:08:35 AM EST

Not a failure at stated purpose -NT - (Silverlock) - March 31, 2005, 11:03:53 AM EST

I firmly believe that you're wrong about that - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 02:36:15 PM EST

One of us is highly untypical. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 03:26:24 PM EST

Truly none? - (ben_tilly) - March 31, 2005, 04:33:33 PM EST

Follow the gourd!
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