Post #201,323
3/30/05 5:35:51 PM
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Strange Firefox dependency on Windoze...
While spreading Firefox at work, I ran into a surprising dependency on one of the old NT4 boxes. The PC is going to be used for intranet access only, so we stripped Office off it and re-applied SP6a. As a result, NT reverted to IE 2.x.
Surprise: the Mozilla installer (latest Firefox and Thunderbird) crashes just past the decompression stage. Install IE6 SP1. Mozilla installer problem goes away. Gah!
I'm wondering if this is bug material or not?
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Post #201,355
3/31/05 4:38:55 AM
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Maybe...
Something to do with platform integration? I know on Linux Firefox calls several GTK dialogs (e.g., file save and file open), so maybe it's trying to do the same on Windows? This would make sense especially if the IE version on those boxes is from the days before Explorer became the file manager.
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Post #201,356
3/31/05 4:44:54 AM
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Firefox on Windows uses common dialogues...
...so I think you're correct. Common dialogues is something that I would expect to get nobbled if the box has reverted to IE2.
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Post #201,405
3/31/05 10:34:32 AM
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There was no IE before Explorer became the file manager.
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Post #201,443
3/31/05 12:37:40 PM
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I'm pretty sure there was...
IE didn't get "web-enabled" until version 4 or thereabouts... before that, it was just a browser, right? IE 4 is when they started the whole "web is the pc is the web" thing, back when we were all waiting for that "push" technology to make the internet obsolete.
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Post #201,450
3/31/05 1:40:41 PM
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Push technology, who was it that...
Was the first "well known" company the did it. Damn I cannot remember.
Something like net-connections or something like that. Frontier-something maybe.
Nope, still not there. Guess the refresh rate wasn't fast enough and the ECC failed too.
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Post #201,456
3/31/05 2:27:46 PM
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Thought it was pointcast.
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Post #201,494
3/31/05 9:15:21 PM
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Told you there was Bit ROT. Pointcast was the name!
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Post #201,508
4/1/05 1:14:02 AM
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Yes, but that's *Internet* Explorer you're talking about now
The Flaming Baptist is a bit muddled: IE didn't get "web-enabled" until version 4 or thereabouts... before that, it was just a browser, right? Uh... And what, exactly, would/should a [Web] browser BE, if not " web-enabled"?!? IE 4 is when they started the whole "web is the pc is the web" thing Yeah, and that's when Internet Explorer became commingled with plain Explorer. (In your mind too, apparently.) But just plain Explorer -- which is what you SAID in the post that started this sub-thread -- had taken over from the old Windows 3.x File Manager as the (default), uh, file manager (and main graphical shell) for Windows with the introduction of Windows 95. Which was before the introduction of Internet Explorer.
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Post #201,548
4/1/05 11:53:28 AM
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er... yes.
Of course, I was just testing you.
:D
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Post #201,564
4/1/05 1:18:02 PM
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Ah, of course; how could I not see that?
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