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Post #201,078 by Another Scott 3/29/05 11:38:32 AM Reply	I think it's more like piracy. Organized crime is usually more interested in having the freedom to do what they want economically. They don't care about politics as long as it doesn't interfere with that goal. Piracy, e.g. the [link\|http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/mtjprece.html\|Barbary Pirates], preys on the economies of enemy states. They demand tribute in order to be left alone. They control territory. They often have the protection of governments. It's not a perfect fit, but I think al Qaeda is closer to a pirate band than something like the Mafia. It took military action for the Barbary Pirates to end their attacks on the US. My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
Post #201,098 by jake123 3/29/05 12:11:03 PM Reply	So, when do we see a letter of marque? We have legal and useful ways of dealing with that sort of problem already; why aren't we using them? My thinking is that the true goal is not the stated goal. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #201,111 by Another Scott 3/29/05 12:55:58 PM Reply	Dunno. That's a very good point. Perhaps there would be arguments of whether a Letter of Marque could apply to anything other than private warships, or something. On the other hand, I think Bush's policy is pretty transparent. And I don't think it's all about oil. Whether his actions further his stated policy goals is a very big question though. :-( I can't say much more without recycling threads that have been beaten to death already. Cheers, Scott.
Post #201,130 by boxley 3/29/05 6:15:25 PM Reply	you have one, they are called contractors they bounty hunt, provide security and carry arms in the field with full aproval of the american government. thanx, bill All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #201,131 by pwhysall 3/29/05 6:18:25 PM Reply	Like the British privateers harrying the Spanish Main. All done with the approval of Liz I. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!

Bill Tierney on torture - (dmcarls) - (38) - March 29, 2005, 09:34:44 AM EST

Interesting piece. Thanks! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - March 29, 2005, 09:58:04 AM EST

"But are we litigating this war or fighting it?" - (Arkadiy) - (36) - March 29, 2005, 10:01:05 AM EST

The real question - (jake123) - (14) - March 29, 2005, 11:25:57 AM EST

There are two questions here - (Arkadiy) - (8) - March 29, 2005, 11:37:13 AM EST

And Bin Laden is, of course, why we have taken over Iraq. -NT - (imric) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 11:42:44 AM EST

No, we did it for oil. -NT - (Arkadiy) - March 29, 2005, 11:44:31 AM EST

Bin Laden can say what he likes. - (pwhysall) - (5) - March 29, 2005, 11:53:45 AM EST

You can say what you like. - (Arkadiy) - (4) - March 29, 2005, 11:57:12 AM EST

What's that got to do with the price of cheese? -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 29, 2005, 12:01:52 PM EST

Bin Laden has an ambition to be the Emir - (Arkadiy) - (2) - March 29, 2005, 12:05:26 PM EST

The "Third Chechen War" - (jake123) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 12:09:42 PM EST

Grrr... - (Arkadiy) - March 29, 2005, 12:24:04 PM EST

I think it's more like piracy. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 29, 2005, 11:38:32 AM EST

So, when do we see a letter of marque? - (jake123) - (3) - March 29, 2005, 12:11:03 PM EST

Dunno. That's a very good point. - (Another Scott) - March 29, 2005, 12:55:58 PM EST

you have one, they are called contractors - (boxley) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 06:15:25 PM EST

Like the British privateers harrying the Spanish Main. - (pwhysall) - March 29, 2005, 06:18:25 PM EST

Damn right - (ben_tilly) - March 29, 2005, 12:11:58 PM EST

Have to disagree on that.... - (Simon_Jester) - (19) - March 29, 2005, 06:11:12 PM EST

No, there is plenty of support for - (Arkadiy) - (18) - March 31, 2005, 09:19:36 AM EST

I disagree - (jake123) - (7) - March 31, 2005, 09:26:48 AM EST

"Going after bikn Laden" - (Arkadiy) - (6) - March 31, 2005, 09:38:07 AM EST

Sorry, you seem to be forgetting something - (jake123) - March 31, 2005, 09:50:50 AM EST

Sorry, you seem to be forgetting something - (jb4) - (4) - March 31, 2005, 11:15:26 AM EST

Yes - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 31, 2005, 11:19:02 AM EST

Maybe not in your mind - (jb4) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 11:53:37 AM EST

Eh? Nit. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 01:45:01 PM EST

IIRC... - (jb4) - April 1, 2005, 10:49:22 AM EST

I agree - (Silverlock) - (6) - March 31, 2005, 09:37:15 AM EST

My point exactly. -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 31, 2005, 09:38:31 AM EST

Nod...point taken... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 11:48:57 AM EST

Wall of tanks across Pakistan? - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 12:08:45 PM EST

Not among the moneyed classes - (jake123) - March 31, 2005, 12:14:31 PM EST

Define succesful - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 10:08:35 AM EST

Not a failure at stated purpose -NT - (Silverlock) - March 31, 2005, 11:03:53 AM EST

I firmly believe that you're wrong about that - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 31, 2005, 02:36:15 PM EST

One of us is highly untypical. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 31, 2005, 03:26:24 PM EST

Truly none? - (ben_tilly) - March 31, 2005, 04:33:33 PM EST

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