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New God damn it!
I did say that the soldier snapped, not that he was right. It's a manslaughter, not a murder. Somebody who should not be dead is dead anyway. Got it?
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And what are we doing when the two most powerful nations on earth -- America and Israel -- stomp on the elementary rights of human beings?

-- letter to the editor from W. Ostermeier, Liechtenstein

Expand Edited by Arkadiy March 24, 2005, 05:33:56 PM EST
New He didn't snap.
If someone here had gone to the trouble to set it up the way this soldier did, he'd've been charged with first degree murder, with the hanging up of the victim used as evidence of forethought and planning. Furthermore, other witnesses have pointed out that knee strikes are a common form of punishment for the defiant in this place; the only difference here is one of degree, not kind.

Got it?

Look, I don't think you're a bad person Arkadiy. I do think you've got a blind spot. You know, when I read that Vice Adm. Church had published a number of documented detainees (60,000) and acknowledged a number of undocumented detainees (the current thinking in mainstream US print media seems to be estimating their numbers at around 10,000), I couldn't believe it. I mean, it really shook me. Have any of these people been charged with anything? Have any of these people encountered any practical limit to the power of the people who have taken them? I very much doubt it. That said, while I'm sure there are people cursing his name, I think Church in his way is trying to save the military, by pointing out the crimes that are being committed in the people's name. One of the very things that got the American Revolution going was the fact that the British were doing the EXACT SAME THING to the people in the colonies. I think Franklin, Jefferson, Washington, et al are spinning in their graves at ~400 RPM.
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     A (bad) day in war - (Arkadiy) - (13)
         You need to get off your horse - (jake123) - (12)
             I don't thnk I am on any particular "horse" - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                 Re: I don't thnk I am on any particular "horse" - (jake123) - (2)
                     God damn it! - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                         He didn't snap. - (jake123)
                 Dude, you living proof that Roger Daltry was right! - (jb4) - (7)
                     I did see it up close and personal the last time around - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                         :) -NT - (jake123)
                         Big fan of Putin and Russian Mafia, are you? - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                             At this point, Putin is rapidly approaching the ideal - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 "For the sake of peace with Trotsky, ... " - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     No... Which episode are refering to? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         "Latvia, & Lithuania are worth losing." That one ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)

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