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New Look, the real problem with DU munitions
is that it gets turned into micro dust when it's used. This means that it gets into the body and the body has zero chance to get it out again.

The stuff is very hazardous, and toxic, and remains so for a long long time. I'm not going to claim that it's going to cause mass mutations or anything (at least, not on the scale it's been used on so far), but what are you going to say if in ten years the cancer rates for Iraq war vets is many times the national average? That we didn't know any better?

It's not hard to figure out that people ingesting/inhaling heavy radioactive metals is not good for them.
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New Some earlier links addressed that.
Rather than cutting and pasting links, I'll just refer interested readers to earlier posts in this thread.

Lots of soldiers from Gulf War I (1991) have lots of DU in them. They're being monitored. Uranium miners have uranium in them. They're also being [link|http://www.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/uranium/append.html|studied].

Uranium can be bad in the body. Heavy metals can be toxic. Alpha emitters can be hazardous when injested. All of that I agree with.

A lot is known about uranium chemistry ([link|https://chppm-www.apgea.army.mil/documents/UrineTesting.pdf|https://chppm-www.ap.../UrineTesting.pdf] discusses how it acts on the body). (z doesn't like https links.)

The problem, as I see it, is one of which side do you come down on as far as the studies are concerned. Do you trust the US military's [link|http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm|FAQs] and studies or not? I generally do.

It also comes down to how you view the relative risk. Radioactivity is all around us. Heavy metals are all around battlefields. There are risks in replacing DU with other materials. Soldiers facing an enemy tank are much more at risk from explosives or bullets than from DU, IMHO. Our soldiers in a tank with DU armor are much better protected than a tank with armor made from other materials.

Getting rid of DU isn't going to make the problem of injesting of heavy metals by soldiers, or civilians who come across debris, go away. DU is a tool, and a very effective tool.

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
     Here's some terrorism for you - (andread) - (52)
         Sounds like we should.... - (ChrisR)
         Bull - (Arkadiy) - (11)
             When thousands of tons are used and burned it gets in you -NT - (andread) - (1)
                 If you want to worry yourself into a frienzy, I can't stop - (Arkadiy)
             Exercise critical thinking... - (pwhysall) - (7)
                 Some critical thinking would be nice all the way around. - (ChrisR) - (6)
                     Thank you. - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                         Non-issue? - (Silverlock) - (4)
                             Ok, not a "radiocative weapon"/genocide - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 That's a non-argument, Ark. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                     True - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Radon concentrations are bad too. - (imric)
             how did one get out of the heavy work details in the gulag? - (boxley)
         How can you take that seriously? - (Another Scott) - (38)
             Actually, while some of the language is hyperbolic - (jake123) - (37)
                 Several of the critics have problems. - (Another Scott)
                 Hard to know how that shakes out - (ChrisR) - (34)
                     the shake out - (andread) - (33)
                         By "intervention in Yugoslavia", do you mean Kosovo? - (Arkadiy) - (32)
                             The UN did a study of DU in Kosovo - (andread) - (31)
                                 Re: The UN did a study of DU in Kosovo - (Arkadiy) - (30)
                                     Toothsome Morsel: - (jb4) - (29)
                                         And also - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                             You know what my point is! - (jb4) - (3)
                                                 Skepticism is good and necessary. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     I defer judgement until ... - (jb4)
                                                 Errr. That was an UN study - (Arkadiy)
                                         Flip that around. - (Another Scott) - (23)
                                             Agreed. - (jb4) - (22)
                                                 Okay. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                     OT: Mind your attributions. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                         Ack! Thanks. Fixed. Now to fix the other one... -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Let's cut to the chase - (Silverlock) - (18)
                                                     Granite is a radiocative substance used in a weapon - (Arkadiy) - (14)
                                                         Cute - (Silverlock) - (13)
                                                             DU is used for the same reason as granite - (Arkadiy) - (12)
                                                                 Thats a good one - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                                                     It is used for ballast and counterweights - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                         Hint: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                             Perfectly. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                 Spell p-l-u-t-o-n-i-u-m - (andread) - (7)
                                                                     "potentially contaminated" - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                                         Look, the real problem with DU munitions - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                             Some earlier links addressed that. - (Another Scott)
                                                                         Links to go - (andread) - (3)
                                                                             What concentration? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                 It Can't be Good (or even average) -NT - (andread) - (1)
                                                                                     Correct. It's below average. -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                     Careful what you wish for. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                         Nice sleuthing, A.S. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                             MTBE was used for good reasons. - (Another Scott)
                 Timeframe depends on who our next president is... -NT - (jb4)

Ohh... they're still working.
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