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But I dont have much use for organized religion so I dont waste time pondering over it.
If you ask me, organized religion exists for only a few reasons:
1. To provide a social outlet
2. To prevent the moral demise of society
3. To offer an explanation for things that science hasnt yet explained
"I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
New Unorganized religions not any better
What with all the Elvis and UFO sightings.
New 4. To elect their own trained idiots to power



"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:42:50 AM EDT
New Re: Maybe
A nit with 3). These matters have been pretty well dissected (even) here, across the eons. The 'scientific method' obv cannot apply to metaphysical ponderings, you might concede (?) Nope, no testing, experiment by peers, Michelson-Morley speed-of-Dark to 6 significant figures, etc.

And nobody will get anywhere.. attempting to find language to 'prove' that the idea even, of meta?physics is either necessary or, ahem realizable -- given the sordid state of most frantic Jelloware in the Age of transistorized speeding-up and time-filling to neural overload.

Given all the grounds for cynicism re most homo-sap mutterings, ratified daily by capitalism / the actual extant US religion - I'd assert that one can simply elide the corporate theologies and 'religions', investigate for oneself; exactly as all the memorable ancient Honchos did their foraging. What's to lose?



Then.. if you Find Something umm transcendental? Keep it to Yourself! or some idiot will start YAN New Religion and today, prolly with a \ufffd. (We never hear from/about the quiet ones, who just smile a lot. Love. It.)

Carrion
New to provide a place of safety for the spiritually troubled
where you can go dump all your misgivings, anger, bad faith decisions and immoral acts, where you come out feeling spiritually refreshed. Kind of like a crapper for the soul.
thanx,
boxley
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New You can do all that without belonging to a church
"I think animal testing is a terrible idea; they get all nervous and give the wrong answers."
     Question about Christianity from the BBC - (bluke) - (21)
         It depends on your view of the Bible. - (pwhysall) - (4)
             Still doesn't explain how some things are picked - (bluke) - (3)
                 It's about the pragmatic view. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     The interesting thing about it is ... - (bluke)
                 Here's an angle on the milieu, here in the Empire HQ - (Ashton)
         Christians usually cite Paul instead to avoid that problem. - (Another Scott) - (3)
             so paul sez its okay to eat shrimp so why not sperm? - (boxley)
             They do study that in seminary - (FuManChu)
             Also. - (static)
         It's all a matter of interpretation - (bionerd) - (11)
             That's a very simplistic analysis. - (pwhysall) - (10)
                 Well, personally . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                     Isn't it a pity that www.manbeef.com is no more? -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Also... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         In Africa, yes . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Maybe - (bionerd) - (5)
                     Unorganized religions not any better - (ChrisR)
                     4. To elect their own trained idiots to power -NT - (tuberculosis)
                     Re: Maybe - (Ashton)
                     to provide a place of safety for the spiritually troubled - (boxley) - (1)
                         You can do all that without belonging to a church -NT - (bionerd)

Unfortunately, the hard part is moderation...
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